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markbark

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Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:36 AM Saturday

My fellow veterans will no doubt agree [View all]

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

I took that oath 42 years ago -- still holds.

But I'll bet the weasels pretending to be lawyers in the administration will say that "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States" takes precedence over "according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice"

They will, of course, be wrong.
Starting in Basic Training it was drilled into us that it was not only your right, but your obligation, your DUTY to refuse unlawful orders.

"I was only following orders" didn't work at Nuremberg. It won't work at any future proceedings. I feel that a vast majority of the armed forces know this. Those that don't will learn quickly.

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No Doubt Here unweird Saturday #1
47 years for me as well. n/t iluvtennis Saturday #21
42 years for me too maptap22 Saturday #2
I took that same oath in Chicago in 1969. Emile Saturday #3
This Vietnam veteran... BH liberal Saturday #4
Before the Constitution, there was Tetrachloride Saturday #5
Took the oath in 1986. Aristus Saturday #6
18 July 1972 BOSSHOG Saturday #7
The Officer Oath omits the part about obeying orders. pfitz59 Saturday #8
Always good to hear from our veterans. democrank Saturday #9
1961 USMC Ping Tung Saturday #10
I knew it Puppyjive Saturday #11
The Officer's Code does not need to spell out every contingency... BH liberal Saturday #12
1968 for me in Milwaukee Augiedog Saturday #13
This fellow Veteran agrees. MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #14
Thank you markbark 🩵 Clouds Passing Saturday #15
I think when faced with gunning down neighbors and friends they will refuse. JohnnyRingo Saturday #16
Shooting citizens already happened... BH liberal Saturday #17
I grew up 20 miles from KSU JohnnyRingo Saturday #28
July, 1970, so 55 years ago for me... Wounded Bear Saturday #18
45 years. It hasn't changed. paleotn Saturday #19
Same here! DemMedic Saturday #20
Hegseth wants soldiers who have no other allegiances than to the Orange One 70sEraVet Saturday #22
I took thosee oaths two times, enlisted an officer Jerry2144 Saturday #23
Yes, that was made abundantly clear when I was in the military. patphil Saturday #24
A Senator Just Recieved a Bomb Threat Mr.Bee Saturday #25
1958 for me n/t Timewas Saturday #26
The problem is that some private in the army is not going to stick his neck out. Jacson6 Saturday #27
Long years ago, I taught Law of War classes to basic trainees and Second Lieutenants in their officer basic course, TomSlick Saturday #29
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