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31. That's exactly my point
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 04:53 PM
Nov 2025

Democrats don't agree with the church on this fundamental issue. So why be part of it? They aren't going to change. The last 2 Popes made no attempt to do so.

Meanwhile look at who the church attracts as fresh converts - Newt Gingrich, JD Vance, Candace Owens. If they find it so appealing, why should we?

As far as being "understanding men", I don't think so. Let's look at another reproductive choice issue and see - surrogacy.

https://apnews.com/article/pope-surrogacy-vatican-russia-israel-ukraine-56acaa8500336db81ee18913a77ddc0f

Pope Francis called Monday for a universal ban on what he called the “despicable” practice of surrogate motherhood, as he included the “commercialization” of pregnancy in an annual speech listing threats to global peace and human dignity


This is deeply personal to me because we just had a son born through surrogacy. Why did we do this? Because when our first son was born, my wife had eclampsia and could have died and our son did die. I watched as they put the bumpers on the bed in case my wife started having seizures. I had to watch my son die in front of me. But because of what is a miracle of modern science, we were able to have another son with the help of a surrogate. She made a choice to help us, and I believe women should have the freedom to make whatever reproductive choices they want. Pope Francis didn't believe that. He wasn't understanding of the situation. Instead he thinks we're despicable. I say he can fuck off.

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I suspected something so I looked the mother up SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #1
"the hospital is investigating the incident." Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 2025 #2
A Great Big YEAH, YEAH,YEAH! jaymac Nov 2025 #6
I see big money on the horizon Puppyjive Nov 2025 #3
Victims have lawyers, this hospital will pay BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2025 #4
This makes zero sense..l Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #5
Are you saying the fake pro-lifers are the hospitals themselves? or the religion that established them? Because the ancianita Nov 2025 #7
Anti-Catholic bigotry still exists in this country SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #8
The problem is when it comes to healthcare The Revolution Nov 2025 #14
Thanks for proving my point! SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #15
It's not bigotry to be opposed to an organization The Revolution Nov 2025 #16
Thanks again SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #17
How childish The Revolution Nov 2025 #19
Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #20
I'm a Catholic BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #21
Yes there are good Catholics SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #22
Of course it's bigotry BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #23
Sorry to hear about your illness SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #24
Thank you BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #25
I take issue with your last statement Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #26
The Evangelicals literally loathe the Catholics BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #28
Which has nothing to do with your statement. Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #29
What are you talking about? BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #30
That's exactly my point The Revolution Nov 2025 #31
1. According to recent data, about 15.8% of all short-term acute care hospitals are Catholic-owned or affiliated. ancianita Nov 2025 #33
The article I provided answes a lot of this The Revolution Nov 2025 #39
I make a distinction between individuals who are Catholic, Crunchy Frog Nov 2025 #36
Glad you do SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #41
With good reason; you paint a half picture. Conjuay Nov 2025 #44
No Right wing people are ruining the country. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #45
i'm referring to anti birth control, anti abortion religious hospitals. Catholic or otherwise. FAKE PRO LIFERS BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2025 #10
You posted an article without using it to support the header claim. Is there anything in the article that ancianita Nov 2025 #34
How does a single individual nurse Crunchy Frog Nov 2025 #35
I know nothing about this hospital and whether or not it has a full obstetrics unit, but increasingly... hlthe2b Nov 2025 #9
they shd b transferred to said nearby hospital. mopinko Nov 2025 #12
Most hospitals TRY to do so, but if it is imminently emergent or the patient/parents refuse, they cannot force hlthe2b Nov 2025 #13
Reddit comment: As a POC I never in my life felt more uncomfortable than when I visited Indiana. Never again . Swede Nov 2025 #11
2000+ years ago, a religion could be spun from this incident. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2025 #18
WWJD? Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #27
Upthread comment: Catholic hospitals are the only option in many areas. GJGCA Nov 2025 #32
LAWSUIT Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #37
Sue the hospital. No woman should have to beg. She could have died !!!!! By Trueblue1968 Nov 2025 #38
They just made that baby RICH. Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #40
Update!! Doctor nurse fired BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2025 #42
Mercy Hospital in the 1970s Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #43
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