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Happy Hoosier

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49. Are you an engineer?

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:49 AM

Nov 2025

I am. That’s not happening where I am or with other companies I know. We still hire junior engineers (I am doing 2 interviews tomorrow). The main issue with everybody learning to code is that being a coder doesn’t mean being a SWE. I need engineers. Problem solvers. I need people who can analyze the problem, conduct research when necessary, identify required resources and execute. Junior guys can’t do all that themselves, but knowing and executing that process separates the “coders” from the SWEs. AI is pretty bad at it. AI is good for doing tedious stuff like writing libraries or documentation, but it requires pretty close review.

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"Learn a Trade!" response to AI fears [View all] Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 OP

It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Nov 2025 #1

I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #4

even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Nov 2025 #2

Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Nov 2025 #18

As they always have Iris Nov 2025 #21

I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Nov 2025 #3

I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #5

GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Nov 2025 #30

I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Nov 2025 #9

True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Nov 2025 #10

I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Nov 2025 #22

Yes, good idea. biophile Nov 2025 #27

Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #47

Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #55

I perfectly cool with people learning a trade, if that's the best choice for them. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #61

a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles Nov 2025 #57

Companies requiring a bachelors degree for a job have dropped in recent yrs. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #59

"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Nov 2025 #6

If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #7

Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Nov 2025 #13

I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #14

I agree Boo1 Nov 2025 #16

I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #19

Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #49

No Boo1 Nov 2025 #50

Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Nov 2025 #15

Agree Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #20

I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Nov 2025 #26

I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #31

That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Nov 2025 #41

Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Nov 2025 #8

It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Nov 2025 #12

Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Nov 2025 #32

Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #56

The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Nov 2025 #11

Well put Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #17

College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Nov 2025 #23

Good for you Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Nov 2025 #24

It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Nov 2025 #25

Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Nov 2025 #28

Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #29

Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Nov 2025 #33

I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Nov 2025 #34

I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #35

BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #39

They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #54

The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Nov 2025 #36

LOL Skittles Nov 2025 #58

Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Nov 2025 #38

Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #40

I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Nov 2025 #42

It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Nov 2025 #43

Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Nov 2025 #45

In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Nov 2025 #52

What I learned in trade school in 1992 still applies today Kaleva Nov 2025 #60

AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Nov 2025 #44

AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Nov 2025 #46

No protection there Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #48

AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Nov 2025 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2025 #53

If millions went to college, wouldn't create a race to the bottom for wages? Kaleva Nov 2025 #62