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haele

(14,827 posts)
12. I personally interacted him twice.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 10:15 AM
Tuesday

Of the three times I was in his presence.
The man had no consideration for "peons" or even personal staff other than how useful to him they were at the time.
If they displeased him or couldn't "jump to it" (once when he was SecDef, he was underway with us observing a final Project test - his staffers became seasick), he had them replaced ASAP.
He was a right surly selfish asshole.

But one "okay-ish" thing I could say for him, he ultimately understood a somewhat open market Democracy protected the continuance his hunting lodge, caviar canape, and fine single-malt lifestyle much better than the zero-sum game of full-on autocracy or oligarchy would. So there's that.

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