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spooky3

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1. I don't think it's always safe for a bystander to ask ICE etc. people

Reply to ihaveaquestion (Original post)

Sat Nov 1, 2025, 11:51 AM

Nov 1

for ID. Seems bystanders can take the other steps and get help.

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What to do if you see a kidnapping .... [View all] ihaveaquestion Nov 1 OP

I don't think it's always safe for a bystander to ask ICE etc. people spooky3 Nov 1 #1

One could tell 911 "I was afraid to confront them and couldn't ask for ID" and do the rest. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 1 #2

Yes nt spooky3 Nov 1 #3

and not sure if they are 'required' to provide ID to anyone (and everyone?) stopdiggin Nov 1 #7

They're not. But the point, for the purposes of the 911 call, is that they didn't,.... Iggo Nov 1 #10

Google this court case. brakester Nov 2 #32

Nothing Polybius Nov 1 #4

Also record it on your phone for evidence. Jilly_in_VA Nov 1 #5

Says who? This is not what refugee/immigrant orgs recommend WhiskeyGrinder Nov 1 #6

which part do they contravene ? stopdiggin Nov 1 #8

calling cops WhiskeyGrinder Nov 1 #12

I think that's fairly questionable too stopdiggin Nov 1 #13

There's always a non emergency number, then it's still on record, the police will come and investigate questionseverything Nov 1 #15

Better to consult with your local immigrant org and see if they have a hotline for rapid response teams WhiskeyGrinder Nov 1 #19

There's another reason Cirsium Nov 2 #35

hmmmm? stopdiggin Nov 2 #38

Get serious Cirsium Nov 2 #42

competely serious. If you DON'T call the police (after something like a serious assault) stopdiggin Nov 2 #43

not really Cirsium Nov 2 #44

In Florida the governor has officially mandated all LEO's to help ICE, on penalty of job loss. ancianita Nov 2 #34

Game wardens Cirsium Nov 2 #37

What are they recommending? Ruby the Liberal Nov 2 #30

contact your local immigrant/refugee org; they'll have guidance WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2 #31

i ask myself what would Ben-hur do Tetrachloride Nov 1 #9

***THIS !!!*** Is what we need from democratic party leadership uponit7771 Nov 1 #11

Is this for real? On who's advice is this recommended? I'm dubious of random littlemissmartypants Nov 1 #14

Yeah, I'm skeptical about this kind of stuff, too. ShazzieB Nov 1 #16

It's a "no go" for me. I totally understand your points, SB. I'd like to live to fight another day. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 1 #18

Kick and recommend bronxiteforever Nov 1 #17

Wow! I never thought there were so many, let's say umm, "risk averse," people on DU. ihaveaquestion Nov 1 #20

fighting with LE very rarely leads to a positive outcome. in good conscience I cannot recommend ... stopdiggin Nov 1 #22

There is nothing about "fighting LE" in the post. Only reporting to verified LE an illegal action by ihaveaquestion Nov 1 #23

and yet we feel the need for a 'scold' on responses rendered ... stopdiggin Nov 1 #24

I'm not risk averse. I'm averse to following random-ass instructions like this one. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 1 #25

This is a very horrific & confusing situation Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 1 #27

That'd make it easier to find. calimary Tuesday #46

Thanks Joinfortmill Nov 1 #21

I wouldn't say anything about what they claimed but just say armed men attacked a person and kidnapped them. Wonder Why Nov 1 #26

Recording the incident and calling 911 duckworth969 Nov 1 #28

An inconvenience to me... ret5hd Nov 2 #29

Record it while asking the victim their name and a phone number to call to notify others. nilram Nov 2 #33

Federal law enforcement in cooperation with state law enforcement is only kidnapping if courts & law ancianita Nov 2 #36

Witnesses to these incidents can't be expected to judge whether they are valid arrests or a kidnapping. ihaveaquestion Nov 2 #39

Witnesses can record & report it as anything they want to call it, for the little to no good that will do in red states ancianita Nov 2 #40

Of course not. But witnesses can also be "seen" by LEO's as obstructing their work. So be aware. ancianita Nov 2 #41

"Extrajudicial" like most words has various meanings and is a living word Ilikepurple Nov 2 #45

Definitely a keeper. calimary Tuesday #47