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AZJonnie

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19. I probably should have made it more clear that my point was more political than technical
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:51 PM
Oct 31

Which is to say, in line with your oft-shared views, the only way AI generally is ever going come close to recouping its costs is by replacing millions of good-paying jobs. Like it would have to be able to coordinate pretty large scale projects.

It's funny that you mention fraud though because the only actual implementation I've been part of at my job is a project where we were going to be using AI to detect fraud, specifically it was to be a 'business referrals' system, which are inherently ripe for abuse (and indeed, AI is used to defraud such systems as well) and we got pretty far into developing the implementation before the money dried up and the project was cancelled. It would have been a custom, purpose-driven installation, not trained on the world at large, just the dataset gathered from the referral submission process.

Of course it would've needed months of training in the form of humans flagging the fraudulent submissions so that the AI could observe the patterns and eventually do the flagging on its own, but I will say my boss was pretty confident it could be brought up to about 95% accurate when trained for this purpose. Obviously this is not life or death stuff so 95% accurate would have been pretty damn useful to the client.

BTW Hi HPD, hope you are well these days

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I hope it replaces all of the investment bankers VMA131Marine Oct 31 #1
I have worked with various forms of AI since the 1980s. Metaphorical Oct 31 #2
I'm really not asserting that this is what will happen, but I believe machines capable of tasks on that scale AZJonnie Oct 31 #3
Yes, I agree that is the selling point being used. Hugin Oct 31 #5
Oh, I absolutely agree with that Metaphorical Oct 31 #21
My own cursory queries bear out the approximate 30% error rate. Hugin Oct 31 #4
Good points and good analysis. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #6
You could have chosen any number of similar pie in the sky examples and they'd all be dreams but not selling points. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #7
Sure, I use Gemini Agentic via CLI everyday. But all I'm talking about is a collection of agents that effectively talk AZJonnie Oct 31 #9
Remember that most agentic calls Metaphorical Oct 31 #22
Well yeah I don't have Gemini running locally like I do Ollama and a couple other models AZJonnie Oct 31 #23
Helpful Starbeach Oct 31 #8
Too long to read. I'll bookmark it. QueerDuck Oct 31 #10
And you'll end up with a 90k sqft ballroom LetsGetSmartAboutIt Oct 31 #11
Stupid Question About AI Bibbers Oct 31 #12
Some amateur answers... Hugin Oct 31 #14
+1 leftstreet Oct 31 #15
Thanks so much! Bibbers Sunday #31
What a pile of bullshit. hunter Oct 31 #13
The coding is useful...but the resto is just bullshit and will crash...the AI companies are Demsrule86 Oct 31 #16
Yeah. I probably didn't make clear enough that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #17
I didn't mean to call you out...just interests me...I love computers and coding. Demsrule86 Nov 1 #30
I've seen too many articles on problems with AI coding including security risks that aren't caught to be highplainsdem Oct 31 #18
I probably should have made it more clear that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #19
That's very interesting, but I think there is a flaw in that MineralMan Oct 31 #20
I really didn't mean it's definitely going to work and building a building was just a convenient illustration AZJonnie Oct 31 #25
All well and good, but the energy demand will kill us (financially and literally) . . . . hatrack Oct 31 #24
Yeah I certainly did not to have it come off sounding like it's all a 'good thing' ESPECIALLY not for the climate AZJonnie Oct 31 #27
Priceline refund works on AI Turbineguy Oct 31 #26
Fascinating discussion. Thank you all. cachukis Oct 31 #28
AI, as both a technology and a commodity, is in its infancy, but this thread makes some nice points Ilikepurple Oct 31 #29
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