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Hugin

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14. Some amateur answers...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 09:36 AM
Oct 31

I am not familiar with Ecosia.

1. DDG allows users to opt out of AI searches. Check your settings to see if it’s set.

2. The best answer to this I can come up with is that they anticipate making money. Your eyeballs are their commodity. The problem up until now is that the volume of data is overwhelming. Truly targeted ads remain elusive. They see AI as a means to cut through this. The current problem for them is consumers are fickle with their tastes and needs. Which AI doesn’t handle well. An example would be, once you have found the refrigerator of your dreams, you are not likely to search for one again soon. So now that they have an expert system trained up on your precise refrigerator metrics. You have moved on to duvets. They believe that the solution to this paradox is to know everything about you in granular detail. Unfortunately for them, human behavior is a fractal or labyrinth for a system (AI) which relies on a steady context. The AI system predicts that you will be needing a new refrigerator soon, but you have opted for a day at the spa.

3. There have been some articles on studies which indicate that an AI search (due to the training of the LLMs) generates several thousand times as much carbon as a regular search. I think that the AI search was around four GRAMS of carbon at the time of the study. Reading up higher on this thread with the construction of data centers happening now it’s probably much higher.

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I hope it replaces all of the investment bankers VMA131Marine Oct 31 #1
I have worked with various forms of AI since the 1980s. Metaphorical Oct 31 #2
I'm really not asserting that this is what will happen, but I believe machines capable of tasks on that scale AZJonnie Oct 31 #3
Yes, I agree that is the selling point being used. Hugin Oct 31 #5
Oh, I absolutely agree with that Metaphorical Oct 31 #21
My own cursory queries bear out the approximate 30% error rate. Hugin Oct 31 #4
Good points and good analysis. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #6
You could have chosen any number of similar pie in the sky examples and they'd all be dreams but not selling points. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #7
Sure, I use Gemini Agentic via CLI everyday. But all I'm talking about is a collection of agents that effectively talk AZJonnie Oct 31 #9
Remember that most agentic calls Metaphorical Oct 31 #22
Well yeah I don't have Gemini running locally like I do Ollama and a couple other models AZJonnie Oct 31 #23
Helpful Starbeach Oct 31 #8
Too long to read. I'll bookmark it. QueerDuck Oct 31 #10
And you'll end up with a 90k sqft ballroom LetsGetSmartAboutIt Oct 31 #11
Stupid Question About AI Bibbers Oct 31 #12
Some amateur answers... Hugin Oct 31 #14
+1 leftstreet Oct 31 #15
Thanks so much! Bibbers Nov 2 #31
What a pile of bullshit. hunter Oct 31 #13
The coding is useful...but the resto is just bullshit and will crash...the AI companies are Demsrule86 Oct 31 #16
Yeah. I probably didn't make clear enough that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #17
I didn't mean to call you out...just interests me...I love computers and coding. Demsrule86 Nov 1 #30
I've seen too many articles on problems with AI coding including security risks that aren't caught to be highplainsdem Oct 31 #18
I probably should have made it more clear that my point was more political than technical AZJonnie Oct 31 #19
That's very interesting, but I think there is a flaw in that MineralMan Oct 31 #20
I really didn't mean it's definitely going to work and building a building was just a convenient illustration AZJonnie Oct 31 #25
All well and good, but the energy demand will kill us (financially and literally) . . . . hatrack Oct 31 #24
Yeah I certainly did not to have it come off sounding like it's all a 'good thing' ESPECIALLY not for the climate AZJonnie Oct 31 #27
Priceline refund works on AI Turbineguy Oct 31 #26
Fascinating discussion. Thank you all. cachukis Oct 31 #28
AI, as both a technology and a commodity, is in its infancy, but this thread makes some nice points Ilikepurple Oct 31 #29
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