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ms.pamela

(46 posts)
31. Flying
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 01:15 PM
Thursday

Here on the west coast $104,000 is barely making it if you have a kid or two. $200,000 a year is considered middle class. I know it is hard for folks living in cheaper areas of the country to understand that especially those whose homes are paid for. I remember reading something recently that explained bill by bill how little a single person would have left each month if they made $75,000 a year and that wasn't for the west coast either. The cost of rent is enormous, example a one-bedroom apartment rents for a minimum of $1,500 a month and that does not include utilities except maybe trash, add on electricity-gas, internet and rental insurance and that amount could easily hit $2,000. Healthcare costs are high, taxes, (federal and state) are high, food is expensive without even eating out. The costs of owning a car- insurance, gas and upkeep adds up, never mind a car payment. Not much left for savings, clothing, entertainment or charity. Getting to the point, this study showed after the person put around 2% of their income into a 401K there was only $3,000 left a year for things like clothing, cable, gifts, charities or emergencies. Probably much less now due to the rising cost of food and health insurance. So much for the great American experiment. I really dislike people l who think like your aunt. Air traffic controllers have an extremely stressful job, so much so it causes many of them health issues. Now they are expected to work without pay, just disgusting.

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my sister in law has sworn off flying after a liftime... samnsara Thursday #1
Thanks, samnsara. MIButterfly Thursday #2
try to remember barbtries Thursday #33
She's super sensitive to it? Happy Hoosier Thursday #12
Same With Me. ColoringFool Thursday #22
If only we had Europe's rail network! Lonestarblue Thursday #3
I grew up in Detroit and I guess because cars were built there, they expected everyone to have a car MIButterfly Thursday #6
Back in the 1920's everyone wanted a car, but it was a luxury FakeNoose Thursday #17
I think Chicago has a great public transit system. MIButterfly Thursday #21
Keep in mind that Europe is a lot smaller than the U. S. PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #8
Is China? barbtries Thursday #11
Did China start with overwhelming private car ownership? PoindexterOglethorpe Friday #42
I think its China that has perfected the bullet train. peacebuzzard Friday #53
Not really an excuse... Shipwack Thursday #20
Actually, it is the excuse. PoindexterOglethorpe Friday #43
In land mass Europe is slightly larger than the US spooky3 Thursday #28
It WAS easier to build good train service. But they have let it go bad DFW Friday #51
Abysmal. I didn't know the system was deteriorating. peacebuzzard Friday #54
It has been going downhill here for a while. A self-perpetuating bureaucracy has no interest in efficiency. DFW Friday #63
sounds like five star Germany has devolved to the norms of the rest of the world.... peacebuzzard Friday #67
I've never been to the Azores and don't speak much Portuguese DFW Friday #68
Its been many decades since I have been to the Azores peacebuzzard 18 hrs ago #70
Porto is the one city there I actually DO know to some degree DFW 18 hrs ago #71
I think that is one of my dream towns to visit. Maybe the only one. peacebuzzard 16 hrs ago #73
Sorry to hear this, and sorry for you. In the 90s train travel spooky3 Friday #61
You got that right!! DFW Friday #64
I have four air travel trips coming up from November 05 - January 24. I am NOT looking forward to it. Pacifist Patriot Thursday #4
I was having occasional dizziness and imbalance like you describe FakeNoose Thursday #18
It's why I use motion sickness patches. miyazaki Thursday #34
Hmmm.... I'll bring that up with my ENT. Pacifist Patriot Friday #49
good advice. barbtries Thursday #35
Vertigo is awful! Pacifist Patriot Friday #50
I have so many specialists my phone contacts skew to D for Doctor. Pacifist Patriot Friday #48
I have no intention of flying for at least three more years. Unless it's a one-way ticket out of the country. Borogove Thursday #5
I agree. Then I thought about those "rendition" airplane rides. All expenses paid. erronis Thursday #7
that's not an option in my world. barbtries Thursday #10
When I told my son that TSA agents are not getting paid, barbtries Thursday #9
Don't know about you, but I'm happy even while loathing and despising tRump Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #14
thanks barbtries Thursday #16
Grief, despair, & sadness I share with you, at times, but they pass before long & I become optimistic again Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #19
I'm sorry you had to endure that. Hope22 Thursday #25
I know who my ex-DIL's mother is barbtries Thursday #32
We flew Tuesday, will again next week RainCaster Thursday #13
how was it at the airports? barbtries Thursday #36
Mostly empty RainCaster Friday #66
my last trip was to LAX barbtries Friday #69
We make $110,000. Fortunately, it is SS and defined 3Hotdogs Thursday #15
That $8300 a month! maunagirl Friday #45
Take off income tax. 3Hotdogs Friday #56
I Quit flying Topomi Thursday #23
Everyone quit flying then. All planes were empty of passengers. peacebuzzard Friday #55
Have a wonderful(?) trip with her. Wonder Why Thursday #24
I hope to have a wonderful trip DESPITE her! MIButterfly Thursday #27
Air traffic controllers are paid pretty well, and they should be. Ocelot II Thursday #26
I flew home from Heathrow to RDU mnhtnbb Thursday #29
Thanks, mnhtnbb! MIButterfly Thursday #37
My daughter makes over double that Tree Lady Thursday #30
Exactly! MIButterfly Thursday #38
Feel same way unfortunately she has been with Tree Lady Thursday #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #47
Flying ms.pamela Thursday #31
Exactly. People like my aunt have absolutely no idea MIButterfly Thursday #39
Your aunt is very naive. RVN VET71 Thursday #41
Not necessarily. maunagirl Friday #46
try living in a compact car for a week... ret5hd Friday #58
If someone makes $100K a year maunagirl Friday #44
It is more nuanced than that. Pacifist Patriot Friday #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #60
welcome to DU, muanagirl peacebuzzard Friday #57
i have high hopes for that one. ret5hd Friday #59
She was close but a little low: EX500rider Friday #62
As well they should! MIButterfly Friday #65
yes they are. peacebuzzard 16 hrs ago #72
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