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Aristus

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42. I'm sorry. I can't even explain why the "women are witches! Burn them!" issue is so important and heartbreaking

Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:23 PM

Oct 28

to me. But it is. Same with hanging the "witches" of Salem.

The Holocaust is so huge that, as horrifying as it is, it eventually becomes abstract. The witch issue is small enough for a person to be devastated by the revolting violation of human rights due to religious fanaticism. Women who were guilty of nothing more than being alone, maybe lonely, maybe ugly (and is that a crime?), a little strange, whatever. For that we had to burn them, hang them, call them monsters?

So yes, remember them; honor what they went through. But nothing would have been better than not abusing them in the first place.

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See the New Tartan Pattern Created to Honor Women Accused of Witchcraft in Scotland Between 1563 and 1736 [View all] demmiblue Oct 27 OP

Thank you Claire and Zoe for wanting history to address their wrongs MagickMuffin Oct 27 #1

Those dark times still live in our psyche and has kept women "in their places" ever since. 1WorldHope Oct 27 #2

". . . every time a man murders his wife or girl friend. It's a witch burning all the same." ariadne0614 Oct 27 #3

Good or bad, Tom Dyer Oct 27 #4

Lovely pattern for a good cause BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 27 #5

The symbolism of the colors and thread counts is interesting, but let's not lose sight of the fact that the tartan...... FadedMullet Oct 27 #6

Stunning tartan....important historical reminder democrank Oct 27 #7

King James started it. ananda Oct 27 #8

Actually, no. mwmisses4289 Oct 28 #26

OK. Now Macbeth. ananda Oct 28 #31

What an incredible memorial. Thank you for posting this. niyad Oct 27 #9

I am wondering the same thing. yellow dahlia Oct 27 #10

They have a website canetoad Oct 27 #11

OMG. Shipping on a $75 scarf is $44, before any Ilsa Oct 27 #12

Thank you. niyad Oct 27 #14

The postal charge pushes it out of My range for Ilsa Oct 27 #15

The postal charge, and krasnov's idiocy did the same for me. And, yes, niyad Oct 27 #16

Thank you so much.The pieces are beautiful. niyad Oct 27 #13

Cool. Thanks! yellow dahlia Oct 27 #18

It's a great tribute to such heinious events.... electric_blue68 Oct 27 #17

I googled "Ukrainian flag tartans" and a number of sites came up. niyad Oct 27 #19

Oh more than one! electric_blue68 Oct 27 #20

Thanks for information. I did not know that but am glad it was done. riversedge Oct 28 #35

I didn't know either until it showed up in my Google newsfeed. electric_blue68 Oct 28 #40

This reminds me of a piece I saw on TV years ago about the origins of witches. Boomerproud Oct 28 #21

Why is it that Christianity is better known for its persecutions than its love? Lonestarblue Oct 28 #22

It seems that every organized religion falls prey to greed and power. yardwork Oct 28 #25

Grateful for the heads up! Siggy52 Oct 28 #23

Another option? TommyT139 Oct 28 #27

Wow. Did you read exactly WHAT the pattern represents? Just a product??? niyad Oct 28 #28

I did, yes. TommyT139 Oct 28 #38

Swoon. I love it! CrispyQ Oct 28 #24

Every colour in that pattern is utterly significant. niyad Oct 28 #29

It would look fetching with a pussy hat! CrispyQ Oct 28 #32

I want some as well, but given what I read about the mill, and the whole niyad Oct 28 #37

What did you find? TommyT139 Oct 28 #39

As I pointed out, there are several knockoff patterns available here, niyad Oct 28 #44

Well yes TommyT139 Oct 28 #46

Not a problem. We all need a change of pace from time to time. niyad Oct 31 #47

Oh, well that will make it all better. Aristus Oct 28 #30

I'm surprised at your response. CrispyQ Oct 28 #33

I'm sorry. I can't even explain why the "women are witches! Burn them!" issue is so important and heartbreaking Aristus Oct 28 #42

Beyond what it represents, it is beautiful as a reminder. marble falls Oct 28 #34

Yes! niyad Oct 28 #36

Love it! And a question: snot Oct 28 #41

In Scotland, I don't know. Aristus Oct 28 #43

Lol! But with all respect! snot Oct 28 #45