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Cirsium

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39. Why?

Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:23 PM

Oct 28

It may very well be that some type of permanent reset is needed, or that the path we are on has no off-ramp. Denying that those things may be true is tantamount to underestimating the damage being done, in my view.

America has faced tough times before, and we have overcome them - I am hearing Ronald Reagan's voice doing some sort of rah rah patriotic short film, sorry. I always wonder who the "we" is in that construct.

Despite their flaws, or as a result of them, our founding documents provided a framework and a map to justice, freedom, equality and preservation of Democracy that has utterly collapsed and has led to MAGA and the nightmare in which we are now living.

I absolutely agree that we can't behave like this is our new "normal" and think that we merely need to "nibble around the margins". As I said, it may be that some type of permanent reset is needed, or that the path we are on has no off-ramp.

Yes, we need to be as bold, scorched earth and extreme in defending justice, freedom, equality and democracy as the Republicans have been in denying them.

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"It will take generations to fix the damage" - Fuck that defeatist noise! [View all] maxrandb Oct 28 OP

The Patriot Act is almost 25 yrs old leftstreet Oct 28 #1

I think the point is that it isn't just Trump we have to get rid of. Bluetus Oct 28 #5

I heard the same thing about Bush leftstreet Oct 28 #6

That's playing into the Fascists game. creeksneakers2 Oct 28 #27

There are about 100 progressives in the House today, Bluetus Oct 28 #35

When you come up with something that will work. creeksneakers2 Oct 28 #40

People will die as a result of allowing this madman to run amok EYESORE 9001 Oct 28 #2

Tell that to Native or Black Americans GusBob Oct 28 #3

Agreed! GreenWave Oct 28 #4

If Trump sees this, he'll want to change the name of the country to "the United Fucking States of America." raccoon Oct 28 #7

In 9 months, the Federal Bureaucracy has been decimated and purged of competent professionals. maxsolomon Oct 28 #8

Imagine what Trump will do in the next three years. sop Oct 28 #13

That is simply NOT true maxrandb Oct 28 #36

Why put "Bureaucrats" in quotes? maxsolomon Oct 28 #37

Republicans will fight tooth and nail Orrex Oct 28 #9

You neglected to mention swong19104 Oct 28 #10

We need unity. More than ever. 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 littlemissmartypants Oct 28 #11

We are losing generations edhopper Oct 28 #12

Yes, it will take generations Cirsium Oct 28 #14

I am NOT underestimating the damage being done maxrandb Oct 28 #34

Why? Cirsium Oct 28 #39

We survived the War Of 1812, two world wars, a Civil War and a Great Depression. Initech Oct 28 #15

When reign of terror of the tuckfrump is over he will be synonymous with all evil dictators in history. kimbutgar Oct 28 #16

An optimist, refreshing. We lived through James Buchanan I suppose, NNadir Oct 28 #17

It's going to take more than rah rah and pep rallies to fix this mess. BannonsLiver Oct 28 #18

MAGA is a trend that started over 500 years ago on this continent. LuvLoogie Oct 28 #19

The thing is, there are millions of Americans who voted for the fuckstick 2 or 3 times muriel_volestrangler Oct 28 #20

I'll drink to your optimism BaronChocula Oct 28 #21

Some great calamity may be needed 2na fisherman Oct 28 #22

And another thing - consider the billionaires who are supporting Trump right now muriel_volestrangler Oct 28 #23

HA! Signed, every female in the United States. Maru Kitteh Oct 28 #24

I don't expect them to go quietly. creeksneakers2 Oct 28 #25

Germany came back, so to can America. aeromanKC Oct 28 #26

I'm a retired registered nurse. markodochartaigh Oct 28 #28

This is the best answer ever! Clearly different people deal in different ways. There is a posse here that Scrivener7 Oct 28 #33

Enough 'fuck's here, does anyone think? elleng Oct 28 #29

It may be difficult to fill the ranks of public servants Martin Eden Oct 28 #30

"fix America with this one weird trick!" uh huh WhiskeyGrinder Oct 28 #31

👏👏👏 1000% THIS. Atreus Oct 28 #32

I personally believe snot Oct 28 #38