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In reply to the discussion: As seen at my local grocery store this morning at every check-out... [View all]progree
(12,476 posts)28. 🚨 SNAP benefits users - Rounding in either direction not allowed, according to U.S. law
Nickels only? Grocers warn ending pennies could put stores in legal hot water, Scripp News, 10/21/25
Law requires cash and SNAP customers be charged the same price.
Grocers across the U.S. are concerned they will no longer be able to provide exact change for cash-paying customers after the U.S. Mint stopped producing new pennies in August.
While many shops plan to round to the nearest 5-cent increment, the grocery industry is worried such a move would violate U.S. law.
Grocery stores that accept Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits must charge the same amount for customers using SNAP as for those paying with cash. In a letter to Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins, grocers said they are seeking guidance on how to stay in compliance with the law if they have to round cash transactions to the nearest nickel.
. . .
Officials estimate ending penny production will save $56 million annually in material costs.
Eliminating the penny is not a partisan issue. Lawmakers from both parties have introduced legislation over the years seeking to end circulation of the coin.
More: https://www.scrippsnews.com/life/money/nickels-only-grocers-warn-ending-pennies-could-put-stores-in-legal-hot-water
Law requires cash and SNAP customers be charged the same price.
Grocers across the U.S. are concerned they will no longer be able to provide exact change for cash-paying customers after the U.S. Mint stopped producing new pennies in August.
While many shops plan to round to the nearest 5-cent increment, the grocery industry is worried such a move would violate U.S. law.
Grocery stores that accept Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits must charge the same amount for customers using SNAP as for those paying with cash. In a letter to Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins, grocers said they are seeking guidance on how to stay in compliance with the law if they have to round cash transactions to the nearest nickel.
. . .
Officials estimate ending penny production will save $56 million annually in material costs.
Eliminating the penny is not a partisan issue. Lawmakers from both parties have introduced legislation over the years seeking to end circulation of the coin.
More: https://www.scrippsnews.com/life/money/nickels-only-grocers-warn-ending-pennies-could-put-stores-in-legal-hot-water
So far I haven't run into any grocers charging to use cards, but my favorite restaurant started doing that in the past few months (in the form of a surcharge), and my second favorite has been doing it for many years (in the form of a discount for cash payment).
But aren't cards faster for cashiers than making change, or waiting for dodderers to come up with the right amount, thus saving on labor costs?
There are businesses that don't accept cards (note to self: Cl&N's). There are businesses that don't accept cash, so I read. Very confusing.
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Rounding is not SNAP, is not inflation, is not tariff taxes. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#49
Can you not put yourself in the position of a cash-only (donation-only) homeless person in this country for one damned
hlthe2b
Saturday
#56
Yes, I'm an ignorant doofus? Isn't SNAP handled electronically (by card)? Tariff taxes are not paid in cash.
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#63
Canada eliminated pennies years ago. Works just fine. I never hear complaints about it.
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#48
In 2012. I am well aware. That says nothing to the situation in US right now...
hlthe2b
Saturday
#52
You need to educate yourself as well. SNAP does not allow rounding up or down and thus the poor using cash
hlthe2b
Saturday
#65
you effectively prove my point. SNAP has nothing (read again, NOTHING) to do
stopdiggin
Saturday
#73
So rounding will only affect people who pay cash & don't have any pennies, right? -nt
CrispyQ
Saturday
#83
Right, they're just saying they might lack pennies to make change for you.
forgotmylogin
Saturday
#50
"Ideally they should adjust the prices so that when adjusted for tax they will always end in #0 or #5"
Wiz Imp
Saturday
#72
Considering the lack of laws governing this and general corporate greed all will be rounded up.
Angleae
Saturday
#86
Thanks. And no, Krogers-King Soopers has no intention of rounding (at least not in favor of customer)
hlthe2b
Saturday
#9
I'm seeing more notices that business is now adding the CC/Debit bank processing fees to the consumer's
Hotler
Saturday
#10
Yes. And apparently we are now. No thoughtful policy on doing so, however. That's the point.
hlthe2b
Saturday
#26
This was hashed over some time ago on DU. When pennies are eliminated, rounding down & up is the law. . . .nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#51
I know. I was being polite because you and I went at it over your unwillingness to note the differences here
hlthe2b
Saturday
#53
For others who missed that discussion, I was slightly wrong, but only slightly ...
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#57
DONE, Bernardo. Personally, I try to help the poor to the extent I can. Not dismiss US policies that hurt them more.
hlthe2b
Saturday
#62
personal attacks are frowned upon. And the poster's comments are very much on point
stopdiggin
Saturday
#68
So you believe someone pointing out the impacts on the poor that your seemingly ignore is a personal attack on YOU?
hlthe2b
Saturday
#69
🚨 SNAP benefits users - Rounding in either direction not allowed, according to U.S. law
progree
Saturday
#28
Two of my doctors now: No cash; 3% surcharge on credit card; debit ok; check ok.
dameatball
Saturday
#35
In Germany, they got rid of the pfenning (the equivalent of the U.S. penny). Here's how they did it ...
aggiesal
Saturday
#39
Fees are extra bc otherwise they could not advertise and sell the lower rate (the nominal rate before fees). . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Saturday
#77
If the cost thing were the legitimate reason, then they should stop manufacturing nickels
Wiz Imp
Saturday
#76
I have a change jar in my house. There used to be stores with donation jars for small change where one could
efhmc
Saturday
#45