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In reply to the discussion: Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo [View all]QueerDuck
(427 posts)193. He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor.
        Face it... he has baggage. People are talking about it. That's not "bashing" that's just being honest. And if anyone thinks that the primary-season vetting is bad... and if a candidate can't weather this little squall of a storm... then there's absolutely no FN way that they would be able to cope with what comes during the General Election season.
The only thing that "helps the Republicans" is running weak and unvetted candidates with "secrets" that will backfire on us during the General Election season. This is all part of the process. Deal with it. 
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                        Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo [View all]
							tritsofme
							Oct 21
							OP
                        
        
        Did you watch his interview?  He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says.
        Autumn
        Oct 22
        #118
      
        
        A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself,
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #38
      
        
        Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates,
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #62
      
        
        Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters
        yaesu
        Oct 21
        #3
      
        
        Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge.
        John1956PA
        Oct 21
        #41
      
        
        Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike.
        John1956PA
        Oct 22
        #187
      
        
        "In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob."
        WhiskeyGrinder
        Oct 22
        #150
      
        
        Tiny difference, your tattoo probably isn't celebrating Nazis. Unlike Bernie's guy
        tritsofme
        Oct 21
        #18
      
        
        It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate.
        tritsofme
        Oct 21
        #27
      
        
        Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary"
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #44
      
        
        The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade.
        tritsofme
        Oct 21
        #49
      
        
        I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E.
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #75
      
        
        Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates
        Keepthesoulalive
        Oct 22
        #101
      
        
        People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced
        WhiskeyGrinder
        Oct 21
        #47
      
        
        I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters!
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #50
      
        
        The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name
        LetMyPeopleVote
        Oct 22
        #219
      
        
        Bernie Sanders IS a JEW....    I am not, so I'll go with HIS judgement on the matter!
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #48
      
        
        That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo?
        EX500rider
        Oct 21
        #26
      
        
        Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE
        tritsofme
        Oct 21
        #32
      
        
        It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about!
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #55
      
        
        Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads
        Jack Valentino
        Oct 21
        #89
      
        
        A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb
        lostincalifornia
        Oct 22
        #96
      
        
        So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character?
        Tim S
        Oct 22
        #103
      
        
        If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them
        uponit7771
        Oct 22
        #142
      
        
        So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO
        EX500rider
        Oct 22
        #236
      
        
        While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things:
        no_hypocrisy
        Oct 22
        #106
      
        
        "Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t
        Shrek
        Oct 22
        #117
      
        
        Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad!
        betsuni
        Oct 22
        #116
      
        
        I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed
        Mysterian
        Oct 22
        #122
      
        
        Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee...
        QueerDuck
        Oct 22
        #171
      
        
        Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one
        Emile
        Oct 22
        #179
      
        
        He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor.
        QueerDuck
        Oct 22
        #193
      
        
        Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used...
        QueerDuck
        Oct 22
        #203
      
        
        JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing.
        QueerDuck
        Oct 22
        #207
      
        
        Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders.
        betsuni
        Oct 23
        #250
      
        
        So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it?
        MichMan
        Oct 22
        #228
      
        
        There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy.
        W_HAMILTON
        Oct 22
        #176
      
        
        He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually.
        W_HAMILTON
        Oct 22
        #188
      
        
        To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful.
        EX500rider
        Oct 23
        #265
      
        
        Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats.
        Maru Kitteh
        Oct 22
        #151
      
        
        The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man
        uponit7771
        Oct 23
        #246
      
        
        Was one of them Fetterman, another Sanders-backed """progressive""" at one point?
        W_HAMILTON
        Oct 22
        #177
      
        
        Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with...
        W_HAMILTON
        Oct 22
        #186
      
        
        Kinda not great to see a lot of people handwaving away a nazi tattoo on a Democrat!
        WhiskeyGrinder
        Oct 22
        #154
      
        
        The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps
        LetMyPeopleVote
        Oct 22
        #155
      
        
        Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders?
        msfiddlestix
        Oct 22
        #165
      
        
        I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the......
        FadedMullet
        Oct 22
        #178
      
        
        If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have......
        FadedMullet
        Oct 22
        #241
      
        
        If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol
        Bluestocking
        Oct 22
        #210
      
        
        MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo
        LetMyPeopleVote
        Oct 22
        #220
      
        
        Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past.
        thought crime
        Oct 22
        #238
      
        
        It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies.
        thought crime
        Oct 23
        #243
      
        
        According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame
        MichMan
        Oct 22
        #239
      
        
        I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner.
        Celerity
        Oct 23
        #253
      
        
        First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs.
        betsuni
        Oct 23
        #257
      
        
        sadly the nazi's had good icons. this one is on the bottom + does not scream nazi.
        pansypoo53219
        Oct 23
        #249
      
        
        The image in the tattoo is the same as the one on Nazi headgear for some branches
        LetMyPeopleVote
        Friday
        #268
      
  