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In reply to the discussion: Oscar Mayer heir Chuck Collins on how billionaires are fleecing everyone [View all]ancianita
(42,252 posts)47. Fair enough. As you say,
We need people like him the same as we need investigative journalist, politicians, lawyers, door knockers, soup kitchen volunteers, philanthropists, protestors, letter writers, etc.
And yet he gets amplified. But not JB Pritzker -- who used his money at scale to actually run for office and have a bigger scale policy and spending impact for Illinois folks.
Same for Mike Bloomberg, not only a mayor of the Democratic City of New York City, but consistently one of the Big Donors for Democrats;
or Jim and Marilyn Simons,
or Reid Hoffman,
or Dustin Moskovitz (donors to Future Forward),
or Amy Goldman Fowler (Biden),
and yes, even George Soros and his Open Society Foundation.
So... while it's clear to me that Collins has done nothing that comes close to what these pro-Democratic billionaires have done for the party of the working class and unions, it's still important to keep in mind that 2/3 of all billionaires donate to the Republican Party.
So ... if his progressive ideas help the party, I should accept that we should take all the varied help we can get from the socioeconomic 1%.
Ideas like his take years to sink in, and almost never are the reason Democrats GOTV.
Maybe this is his year. I just seriously doubt it.
And I don't mind challenging people here for not appreciating truly active billionaires who either run for office, or contribute material good to the party, and to the People on the party's behalf.
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Oscar Mayer heir Chuck Collins on how billionaires are fleecing everyone [View all]
erronis
Wednesday
OP
Would that he were committed to the "common good" enough to run for a senate seat & then get chosen as VP when
ancianita
Wednesday
#2
Then people needn't listen to richies who walk away. Again, he's safely virtue signaling in his catbird seat.
ancianita
Wednesday
#4
You are being rather judgemental. You seem to be condemning someone for his accidental birth.
flashman13
Wednesday
#5
You mean the man who gave away his inherited millions to progressive causes when he was in his twenties?
Hekate
Wednesday
#7
Please enlighten me about what those progressive causes were. I'm unfamiliar.
ancianita
Wednesday
#10
All the better. AND he still literally fills stadiums with his "Fighting Oligarchy" speeches.
ancianita
Thursday
#25
I hear you. Sorry I'm just not well read re non-Democrats. I wore his campaign button when he first ran for president
ancianita
Thursday
#31
So no. Books are good, rallies that promote the ideas of the books are better.
ancianita
Thursday
#66
Per another post, his current net worth's around $250,000. His inheritance (that he gave away decades ago) was $500,000.
Celerity
Thursday
#64
When I read the words "virtue signaling" I know it's time to go read a another post somewhere else.
NBachers
Wednesday
#15
Fine. I don't dispute that he lived by his principles, but question what material good he
ancianita
Thursday
#36
That's your question. MY question is what material good did he ever do to get this kind of attention.
ancianita
Thursday
#40
That's beside the point. He's written and said "quite a bit," but absolutely no one here can link to where he's
ancianita
Thursday
#42
Maybe because he feels the best way he can contribute is through scholarship and raising awareness.
Pacifist Patriot
Thursday
#45
Okay. I get your reasoning and the fact of his mere millionaire status. Mine is that
ancianita
Thursday
#52
Of course not. I stated a "Would that he..." That statement is aspirational opinion, not a test.
ancianita
Thursday
#62
What did you mean by listing them?that they'd fail what you allege is a "test"?How did you get that I'm applying a test?
ancianita
Thursday
#70
Collins is the great-grandson of Oscar F. Mayer, founder of Oscar Mayer meat processing. $500,000?
ancianita
Thursday
#69
I've given sufficient reasons. All for one post about wishing he were committed to doing something that
ancianita
Thursday
#61
This "gazillionaire" inherited $500,000 (about $1.5M today). Not even close to billionaire status.
Pacifist Patriot
Thursday
#46
There are good reasons. If he wants potential power to rein in the .01%, he's got to get some experience somewhere.
ancianita
Thursday
#30
I don't follow the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" philosophy as rigidly as some.
DFW
Wednesday
#6
It's too bad more people don't understand this - you don't get to be a billionaire by paying your employees well.....
groundloop
Wednesday
#8
"Pretty much everything you care about is undermined by that concentration of wealth and power..."
OldBaldy1701E
Thursday
#29