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In reply to the discussion: Gov. Pritzker calls for invoking the 25th Amendment: [View all]onenote
(45,698 posts)Trump's disrespect for established Constitutional norms including the separation of powers, is a very real and serious concern -- one that is most appropriately dealt with either at the ballot box or in an impeachment proceeding (which actually is less of a hurdle to overcome than removing a president via the 25th Amendment.)
IMO, the 25th is intended to address the situation described in the amendment -- a president who is "unable" to discharge the powers and duties of the office. Not a president who discharges those duties badly or even unlawfully. But a president who literally is not able to act -- not able to sign or veto legislation or make appointments vested to his authority by the Constitution etc.
As terrible and even unlawful as some of Trump's actions, and as unhinged as his oratory, his decisions have the support of his cabinet, of a majority of the Congress, and in many instances, the courts. Again, the 25th amendment was not intended as a means of sitting in judgment of a president's decision making, it was intended to address a situation where the president literally cannot make decisions, because for example, he or she is unconscious, in a coma, or otherwise incapacitated.
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