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(170,659 posts)80. MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected
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Did the secretary bring generals and admirals in from around the world so he could treat them like a CPAC audience? Actually, yes, he did.
Why Pete Hegsethâs pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected
— (@gypsydaveh.bsky.social) 2025-09-30T16:25:32.516Z
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pete-hegseth-speech-generals-admirals-rcna234674
But having heard the secretarys remarks, he proved to be even worse than expected. Reuters reported:
Choosing the worst moment from Hegseths bizarre and unnecessary speech is admittedly challenging. Was it his boasts about firing qualified military leaders? Or maybe his condemnation of diversity initiatives and climate change as s--- that the military will no longer care about?.....
Maybe the lowest of the low points was Hegseths comment that seemed to open the door to a new attitude toward war crimes. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also dont fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country, he declared. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.
In other words, Hegseth spent millions of taxpayer dollars to bring generals and admirals in from around the world so that he could treat them like a CPAC audience.
As for those in attendance who mightve been uncomfortable with the secretarys absurdities, he extended some advice to them, too. If the words Im speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign, Hegseth said.
U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth slammed fat generals and diversity initiatives that he said led to decades of decay in the military and told a rare gathering of commanders on Tuesday they should resign if they dont support his agenda. Foolish and reckless political leaders set the wrong compass heading and we lost our way. We became the Woke Department, Hegseth said as he kicked off the event in Quantico, Virginia. But not anymore, he said.
Choosing the worst moment from Hegseths bizarre and unnecessary speech is admittedly challenging. Was it his boasts about firing qualified military leaders? Or maybe his condemnation of diversity initiatives and climate change as s--- that the military will no longer care about?.....
Maybe the lowest of the low points was Hegseths comment that seemed to open the door to a new attitude toward war crimes. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also dont fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country, he declared. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.
Hegseth: "We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-30T13:06:31.204Z
In other words, Hegseth spent millions of taxpayer dollars to bring generals and admirals in from around the world so that he could treat them like a CPAC audience.
As for those in attendance who mightve been uncomfortable with the secretarys absurdities, he extended some advice to them, too. If the words Im speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign, Hegseth said.
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People are saying generals, there are not 800 generals in our military there are 800
Eliot Rosewater
Tuesday
#106
Yes, that was explained earlier there are to be NO reactions positive or negative. Proper protocol.
Fla Dem
Tuesday
#50
Turnip has never told an actual joke in his life. It's a warning which is thinly disguised as a joke.
eppur_se_muova
Tuesday
#114
sorry I don't know how to link to a post anymore, with the new platform...
thesquanderer
Tuesday
#128
Wouldn't it be great if they marched en masse from the meeting to Congress...
Reader Rabbit
Tuesday
#22
Only about 40 miles. Healthy enough generals should be able to do that march easily
IronLionZion
Tuesday
#27
Going with numerous othere posters here. This is pretty much expected behavior, and really doesn't
stopdiggin
Tuesday
#23
trump orders his generals to give him applause: "I've never walked into a room so silent before.
LetMyPeopleVote
Tuesday
#24
Idiot probably thinks they need his permission to applaud, so he was being magnanimous to "allow" it.
llmart
Tuesday
#138
US Air Force can't be too happy that Hegseth sent pilots into a possible ambush.
Irish_Dem
Tuesday
#42
Trump got a message here. Don't expect the military to enforce a police state for him.
patphil
Tuesday
#32
I wouldn't reads too much into "audience reaction" here. We have no clue how individual audience members think or feel
KPN
Tuesday
#49
Recruitment must be getting difficult for the Armed Forces with the ICE mob offering $50k bonus money to GED types.
NoMoreRepugs
Tuesday
#72
MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected
LetMyPeopleVote
Tuesday
#80
I always had a much better feeling about the officer corps than about any of the other loci of power
paulkienitz
Tuesday
#104
This photo of the Chief of Staff Army (silver hair matches the stars) with the
soldierant
Tuesday
#140
saw that... but his role is a special case, he hangs out with high officers all day
paulkienitz
Wednesday
#145
Sure, they might follow orders. But after today, the US Military high command despises their CIC.
ancianita
Tuesday
#125