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(93,203 posts) Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:52 PM Sep 29

I'm just now coming around to this. [View all]

...shit is really escalating out there, and the leaders in charge of the government right now are just fanning the flames. We need to be better.

Captain Mark Kelly @CaptMarkKelly
The attacker on the LDS church in Michigan was a murderer. Who he voted for doesn’t matter. This kind of evil isn’t left or right — it’s just evil.

And to overcome it, we all have to reject it without pointing fingers.

8:02 PM · Sep 29, 2025

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I'm just now coming around to this. [View all] bigtree Sep 29 OP

Angry white MAGA males are hunting down Americans. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #1

I went looking for that and found that it's becoming a back and forth thing bigtree Sep 29 #4

I cannot and will not give angry white MAGA males a pass. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #6

okay, no one here is actually doing that bigtree Sep 29 #10

This all feels like man splaining to me. ananda Sep 29 #15

jesus that's vile bigtree Sep 29 #18

This is what makes his lecturing us all the more perplexing. Irish_Dem Sep 30 #44

You made a post with a quote from Kelly about "Not Pointing Fingers" at the perps. Irish_Dem Sep 30 #43

And yes, I'm right there beside you! ananda Sep 29 #14

Have you noticed? Does not matter where, but we can't talk about angry white males, niyad Sep 29 #31

everyone can see that NO ONE here said don't talk about white males bigtree Sep 29 #32

I did not say any of those things, so kindly address your remarks to niyad Sep 29 #33

is it, now? bigtree Sep 29 #36

I know. ananda Sep 29 #34

If women, POC, LGBT were the shooters they would be eliminated. Irish_Dem Sep 30 #45

Right there with you! niyad Sep 29 #30

How about "you first" to maga. Klarkashton Sep 29 #2

how about us first? bigtree Sep 29 #7

I don't think so. Klarkashton Sep 29 #8

which murders? bigtree Sep 29 #21

But is the violence coming from the left? intheflow Sep 30 #46

no question that EXTREMIST violence has shifted far to the right over the last 40 years bigtree Sep 30 #47

To change behavior, multigraincracker Sep 29 #17

It's hard to find any good behavior in one particular 79 year old. Gimpyknee Sep 29 #40

We have been doing that for what? 45 years? Eko Sep 29 #25

I think that incitement is an important element bigtree Sep 29 #27

Ari Schaffer may have espoused the best action to take. Gimpyknee Sep 29 #41

More than anything, to me, it is a Relief to my mind, that it was not one of us. Nictuku Sep 29 #3

same bigtree Sep 29 #9

We will not hear jack shit from law enforcement gab13by13 Sep 29 #16

Yes, you are so very right. I would say this about most mass shooters. Srkdqltr Sep 29 #5

To write it off as "just evil" makes it sound like Satan made him do it, and that the answer Gaugamela Sep 29 #11

Kelly is intimately familiar with gun violence bigtree Sep 29 #12

I've found that 95% of religions are authoritarian. multigraincracker Sep 29 #23

I do prefer when we yelled about mental healthcare and guns. Silent Type Sep 29 #13

But that was when we thought it mattered. ananda Sep 29 #19

what about the ones that aren't white maga? bigtree Sep 29 #24

Back to the when they go low we go high BS. Autumn Sep 29 #20

With respect to Kelly and Gifford and their experience, this is not the way. You can't solve a problem you can't or Iris Sep 29 #22

should we name the motives of folks who are perpetrating violence who aren't maga bigtree Sep 29 #26

This is a societal problem that needs to be addressed holistically and not just as crime and punishment scenario Iris Sep 29 #28

actually he labled the act as evil bigtree Sep 29 #29

The act is certanly evil... ananda Sep 29 #37

I agree and incitement to violence should continue to be called out. bigtree Sep 29 #39

I'm sorry but I don't believe this is a both sides thing ecstatic Sep 29 #35

there is a good deal of political violence that isn't coming from the rw bigtree Sep 29 #38

Have you noticed that every time trump is in office Keepthesoulalive Sep 29 #42