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Bernardo de La Paz

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15. I have no beef with the theory on connecting church fires; it is based on observation. The speculation on Kirk's

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 06:21 PM

Sep 29

The speculation on Kirk's killing as motivation is (at the moment) factless but it is being repeated so many times by so many posters that it is starting to take on a life of its own. That is how fake news and bogus conspiracy theories are born and take hold. People let their guard down and just ingest it.

The speculation on Sanford's motive re Kirk is not in any way necessary to canetoad's theory about the methodology of church fires, a theory that has some merit.

I'm discussing the idea that Sanford-Kirk has no merit (unless something unknown is discovered) and discussing that the connection between church fires has merit (based on the terroristic similarities).

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I think the burning of the church was a message (Michigan) [View all] canetoad Sep 29 OP

Christian on Christian crime JustAnotherGen Sep 29 #1

If you have credible evidence that Sanford was "angered by the shooting of Kirk", then post it. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #2

Theory, Bernardo canetoad Sep 29 #4

I'm uncomfortable with the comparison to the Heydrich assassination. WarGamer Sep 29 #6

I agree with you canetoad Sep 29 #20

It's tribalism.... WarGamer Sep 29 #22

Not speculaton: fact that Sanford & Nazis did similar thing. It's factless speculation he was moved by Kirk's killing. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #9

He did target a Mormon church, not just a church. The timing merits speculation 617Blue Sep 29 #8

There is no dispute he hated mormons. As to timing, who knows, and yes it is only speculation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #13

Bernardo, the OP was clearly speculating and discussing an idea. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #11

+1000 BeerBarrelPolka Sep 29 #14

I have no beef with the theory on connecting church fires; it is based on observation. The speculation on Kirk's Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #15

Science is based on getting feedback for one's theories. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #17

Science is based on facts & observations. Speculation can inspire science but is not a THEORY & not science per se Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #18

This is not correct. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #19

Speculation inspires (starts) science but is not science. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #23

As a big fan of history and one who has read books on the topic and stood at the spot of the assasination in Prague... WarGamer Sep 29 #3

It was a far right lunatic, but Vogon_Glory Sep 29 #10

Part of the problem of these run of the mill psychopaths Prairie Gates Sep 29 #5

No, the old ghosts aren't dead. Mormon persecution is reviving Vogon_Glory Sep 29 #7

I agree the shooter was sending a big message. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #12

..unrelated to the assassination of James Jesse Strang thomski64 Sep 29 #16

Haven't heard about that canetoad Sep 29 #21