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canetoad

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Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:28 PM Sep 29

I think the burning of the church was a message (Michigan) [View all]

Digging up WWII history is a recurring theme with the mob of nazis in power right now. Try this theory on for size.

Angered by the shooting of Charlie Kirk, Sanford wanted to exact revenge in a brutal but newsworthy way. Cast your minds back to the 'village' horrors of which there were many during WWII. Two stand out - the massacre at Lidice (Czech Republic) in which all the men were shot and the women and children sent to camps before the village was wiped out.

Then there was the massacre of Oradour-sur-Glane in France in which the men were again shot but the women and children were herded into the village church and it was set alight, killing almost everyone.

Lidice was in retribution for the assassintion of Reinhardt Heydrich - an SS general. Oradour was carried out for partisan activity.

Ramming a church with a truck carrying explosives is a clear message. I believe Sanford hoped to burn alive all those inside thereby making a huge statement. I also think that the nazi massacre he wished to recreate was that of Lidice and not Oradour.

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Christian on Christian crime JustAnotherGen Sep 29 #1
If you have credible evidence that Sanford was "angered by the shooting of Kirk", then post it. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #2
Theory, Bernardo canetoad Sep 29 #4
I'm uncomfortable with the comparison to the Heydrich assassination. WarGamer Sep 29 #6
I agree with you canetoad Sep 29 #20
It's tribalism.... WarGamer Sep 29 #22
Not speculaton: fact that Sanford & Nazis did similar thing. It's factless speculation he was moved by Kirk's killing. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #9
He did target a Mormon church, not just a church. The timing merits speculation 617Blue Sep 29 #8
There is no dispute he hated mormons. As to timing, who knows, and yes it is only speculation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #13
Bernardo, the OP was clearly speculating and discussing an idea. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #11
+1000 BeerBarrelPolka Sep 29 #14
I have no beef with the theory on connecting church fires; it is based on observation. The speculation on Kirk's Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #15
Science is based on getting feedback for one's theories. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #17
Science is based on facts & observations. Speculation can inspire science but is not a THEORY & not science per se Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #18
This is not correct. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #19
Speculation inspires (starts) science but is not science. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 29 #23
As a big fan of history and one who has read books on the topic and stood at the spot of the assasination in Prague... WarGamer Sep 29 #3
It was a far right lunatic, but Vogon_Glory Sep 29 #10
Part of the problem of these run of the mill psychopaths Prairie Gates Sep 29 #5
No, the old ghosts aren't dead. Mormon persecution is reviving Vogon_Glory Sep 29 #7
I agree the shooter was sending a big message. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #12
..unrelated to the assassination of James Jesse Strang thomski64 Sep 29 #16
Haven't heard about that canetoad Sep 29 #21
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