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EarlG

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16. To be clear
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:03 PM
Wednesday

I'm not trying to make the point that only one "side" is responsible for violence, because clearly both Republicans and Democrats have been shot by crazies. But as far as I'm concerned, only one side has spent decades encouraging and cultivating the idea that the way to deal with government overreach is to commit gun violence against the government.

This nation was founded by people who stood up against tyranny and used violence to overthrow their previous rulers, so they could create their own government -- and we celebrate that. But violence is, and should always be, a last resort used for self defense. Over the past couple of decades -- you can see examples in my OP, but there are hundreds of other examples -- Republicans have mainstreamed the idea of violence against the government, right up to and including their attempt to essentially kill congresspeople and the vice president on January 6, 2021, which resulted in injuries to 140 police officers, and which Republicans later dismissed as a violence-free love fest committed by "tourists."

Presumably Republicans believed that the only fallout from all these years of encouraging people to see the government -- or other people in positions of power and authority -- as something worthy of shooting at if you disagree with them, would be that their "side" would shoot at our "side." But the problem with opening this Pandora's box of "might makes right" ideology is that we are all exposed to it.

Republicans have spent decades brainwashing Americans into believing that the simple solution to something you disagree with is to shoot at it. They've done this while also making it significantly easier for anyone to get their hands on powerful weapons of war. And now they're operating elements of the government in a manner which could genuinely be described as tyrannical -- masked agents roaming the streets without ID, kidnapping people and disappearing them into foreign torture prisons, ignoring court orders, dehumanization and blatant corruption in broad daylight blasted daily from the president on down... they're creating the exact conditions that they've spent decades telling people should be fought against with gun violence.

And then they have the gall to say, "Hey everyone, let's tone down the rhetoric."

All I have to say is [View all] EarlG Wednesday OP
All I have to say is - "DON'T TAKE TYLENOL" walkingman Wednesday #1
DURec leftstreet Wednesday #2
Those guys look like they should be driving those old little Toyota pickups. twodogsbarking Wednesday #3
+1,000,000,000,000,000 highplainsdem Wednesday #4
Excellent post. sheshe2 Wednesday #5
I'm sure you could probably find even more examples too. llmart Wednesday #6
It's why both-siders keep having to go back to 2017 BaronChocula Wednesday #7
The guy who shot Scalise? Was he really a Democrat? I don't think so. Walleye Wednesday #12
His affiliations were a lot less clear BaronChocula Wednesday #22
What got me about the whole thing, was that Scalise was still pro-gun after he nearly died Walleye Wednesday #26
That got me, too! What does it take?! Rhiannon12866 Wednesday #29
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall... GiqueCee Wednesday #15
To be clear EarlG Wednesday #16
I think we're in agreement n/t BaronChocula Wednesday #23
You make a great point EarlG odins folly Wednesday #39
Great. OP malaise Wednesday #8
Thank you EarlG. Now how do we get this on the front page of every newspaper? 1WorldHope Wednesday #9
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Wednesday #36
People still read newspapers? progressoid Wednesday #42
thank you for this. I think this kind of summary is also the responsibility of MSM outlets, pundits, newsrooms wiggs Wednesday #10
Epic Grim Chieftain Wednesday #11
Amen. Wednesdays Wednesday #13
And the threat is REAL BurnDoubt Wednesday #14
KnR Hekate Wednesday #17
republicans want a war mountain grammy Wednesday #18
Mentally ill and heavily armed IronLionZion Wednesday #19
Another submission for your OP... PunkinPi Wednesday #20
Interested to know the reaction if she was a Democrat. BurnDoubt Wednesday #38
By her own party's standards, Winsome Earle-Sears is super DEI. Norrrm Thursday #51
K & R! Thank you EarlG FakeNoose Wednesday #21
Well said Mr. G Botany Wednesday #24
Perspective... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #25
RW media flipped that Bundy time pic as being a Federal agent underpants Wednesday #27
"When do we get to use the guns?" Kid Berwyn Wednesday #28
bookmarked proud patriot Wednesday #30
Well said Wild blueberry Wednesday #31
The generation that grew up in a hail of gunfire is old enough to take up arms. Queso Delicioso Wednesday #32
Well said!!! mzmolly Wednesday #33
K & R Permanut Wednesday #34
Thank you for that stark reminder, Earl. peggysue2 Wednesday #35
Thank you! yellow dahlia Wednesday #37
Exactly right. WestMichRad Wednesday #40
BINGO pbmus Wednesday #41
The Justice Department needs to do a detailed study on domestic violence. Gimpyknee Wednesday #43
GOP - GunsOverPeople red dog 1 Wednesday #44
K&R spanone Wednesday #45
I'm confused. If 2A violence may be necessary to stand up against a tyrannical government... Martin Eden Wednesday #46
This is a gun control issue as much as anything. The GOP has promoted and defended applegrove Thursday #47
Nothing says "Peace on Earth" and celebrating the birth of Jesus,Prince of Peace like political leaders posing on their KitFox Thursday #48
K&R mdbl Thursday #49
K&R ck4829 Thursday #50
"when our government becomes tyrannical..." Norrrm Thursday #52
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