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Scrivener7

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8. I just posted about this inside another thread. Here are the odd happenings the new video shows:

Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:37 AM

Jul 18

A member of the Taco team is allowed to cross below the stage as Taco is on the ground, while no one should have been near the stage. That person then ushers a handful of photographers to the spot below the stage, then tells them to move to the right so they are positioned perfectly for the photo op. THEN the crane lowers the flag to be within the photo angle.

From the comments of the crowd, this all happens before the crowd knows whether he is alive or dead.

THEN Taco stands up and they take the perfect photo. The member of the Taco team then moves them again to near the stairs. Again, a spot where no one should have been allowed to go. Again, positioned for a perfect photo. It appears that THAT photo becomes the official maga photo that has been circulated by the Taco team.

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New angle from Butler, PA - Appears to show staging of Trump's "Fight, fight, fight" photo. [View all] Snarkoleptic Jul 18 OP

Feasible but need more evidence no_hypocrisy Jul 18 #1

Poppycock NoRethugFriends Jul 18 #2

So, we have a feeble demented 78 year old man Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #3

USA Today has a detailed timeline showing he was on the ground no more than 1:25. Snarkoleptic Jul 18 #9

Kid shooter was also a maga. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #10

So the SS was in on the hoax? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #11

SS ineptitude is a possbility and people died for this stunt. Snarkoleptic Jul 18 #15

So, you believe the shooting was staged, and arranged in advance by the campaign? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #16

I think it may have been staged. Snarkoleptic Jul 18 #23

A "joke" that killed two people and wounded a few others? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #24

Have you ever been a Federal LEO and organized, participated in, and/or... Wuddles440 Jul 18 #52

So the flaws in the narrative suggest it was staged? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #68

See post 40. Do you actually believe anything coming from the trump admin? brush Jul 18 #42

There should either be a scar or a chunk of ear missing. lapfog_1 Jul 18 #4

He was probably asked to shoot above the crowd but he screwed up the shot. travelingthrulife Jul 18 #6

I guess that's possible. yardwork Jul 18 #12

Not to mention, only a very very tiny change in angle could have seriously killed Trump karynnj Jul 18 #76

Agreed. yardwork Jul 18 #78

Ronny Jackson publicly stated Trump had a 2cm gunshot wound, which is untrue. Snarkoleptic Jul 18 #7

That is obviously a lie but nothing new from that quack. yardwork Jul 18 #13

Known drinker doctor may have been seeing double. Attilatheblond Jul 18 #26

Pretty obvious IMO the SS and the kid shooter were in on it, but the kid shooter... brush Jul 18 #40

The kid was probably told he would never be convicted or see prison biophile Jul 18 #58

Absolutely. Agreed. The magats will stop at nothing. As you say, the kid never had a chance as he would be dead. brush Jul 18 #60

How much investigating was done afterward? bucolic_frolic Jul 18 #5

I just posted about this inside another thread. Here are the odd happenings the new video shows: Scrivener7 Jul 18 #8

So the Trump team knew in advance that he would be shot? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #17

The SS let the shooter, a 22 year old hapless maga, Scrivener7 Jul 18 #20

SS was in on it too. brush Jul 18 #43

The hydraulic boom which supported the flag suddenly dropped as hydraulic fluid sprayed the crowd. John1956PA Jul 18 #14

You're just providing inconvenient facts to spoil a perfectly good conspiracy theory. Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #18

Thank you. The least that should be able to do in follow up . . . John1956PA Jul 18 #21

See post 22. You may like it, but it's not fact. It never happened. It's just a conspiracy theory. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #25

So, you believe the shooting was staged? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #28

Yes. Not the whole team, but a few who needed to know. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #29

Thanks Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #30

But you believed the boom was shot when the owner has confirmed that it wasn't. So there's that. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #31

I believe the boom wasn't deliberately lowered to put the flag in the perfect photo op. Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #33

And you believed the boom was shot when the owner Scrivener7 Jul 18 #34

My Reply No. 57 contains the following image taken from a video showing the spray of hydraulic fluid. John1956PA Jul 18 #59

Except the boom owner says his equipment was not damaged. See post 22. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #62

The damage might have been to some other a component of the pressurized hydraulic schematic. John1956PA Jul 18 #69

Read the article linked at post 22. The guy owned the booms and the cranes. He has confirmed his equipment Scrivener7 Jul 18 #71

I am talking about the green tractor. John1956PA Jul 18 #73

OK, but the guy who owned the cranes and booms for the flags said his equipment wasn't damaged. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #75

No. 1: The guy is a MAGA who said he would loan the equipment all over again. I do not trust what MAGAs say. John1956PA Jul 18 #77

LOL! Yes, no doubt the green tractor was powering something. Just not the flags. BECAUSE the owner Scrivener7 Jul 18 #79

I am curious, what is the difference between a boom and a crane? I do not know, and I would like to learn. John1956PA Jul 18 #80

Do you believe Trump knew? Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #32

Yes. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #37

So, Susie Wiles and Chris Civitta (sp?) knew for sure? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #35

I don't know who knew. I know that a 22 year old maga nursing home orderly outmaneuvered the Secret Service Scrivener7 Jul 18 #36

You're making good points. The only thing I don't agree on is that the shooter our maneuvered the SS. brush Jul 18 #45

I agree with you, and I think the fact the kid was maga supports you. But the person I was responding to is Scrivener7 Jul 18 #46

We're on the same page. brush Jul 18 #48

This !! It doesn't take a village to stage this just a few insiders uponit7771 Jul 18 #66

I agree with this. hamsterjill Jul 18 #74

I hadn't heard that, so searched for info and found a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article. Snarkoleptic Jul 18 #22

Here is a video posted on X. John1956PA Jul 18 #27

perfect timing for the photo WhiteTara Jul 18 #47

Color me surprised. Not at all. BoRaGard Jul 18 #19

Crazy conspiracy theory that somehow survives here. Melon Jul 18 #38

Ben Franklin: "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead"" ms liberty Jul 18 #39

First rule of assassination... Kill the assassin. Norrrm Jul 18 #41

Book recently published about this CozyMystery Jul 18 #44

so was killing the veteran part of the plan too or just an accident eShirl Jul 18 #49

I sure hope this Greg_In_SF Jul 18 #50

See post 22. The vehicle that was shot wasn't the crane holding the flag. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #51

As I have suggested in other posts on this thread, the green tractor might have taken the hit by the projectile. John1956PA Jul 18 #63

I have always been puzzled as to why the flag was lowered over the scene. Maybe someone riversedge Jul 18 #53

My Reply No. 20 contains a link to an X video showing a spray of hydraulic fluid . . . John1956PA Jul 18 #57

Reddit never fails to entertain. egduj Jul 18 #54

Simple... EarthAbides Jul 18 #55

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Jul 18 #56

Hard pass on this tinfoilhatism CT bollocks. It's a bad look for DU to see this BlueAnon crackpottery flung out here. Celerity Jul 18 #61

DUers don't trust Trump enough to give him any benefit of the doubt on anything uponit7771 Jul 18 #67

It's not giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, it's taking a clip and immediately using a frame of wild CT Celerity Jul 18 #70

It's embarrassing. demmiblue Jul 18 #82

I'm leaning stages at this point, TF was that shit ?!! uponit7771 Jul 18 #64

I'm wore ForgedCrank Jul 18 #65

So they knowingly sacrificed a MAGA voter and the shooter was such a good shot the bullet just doc03 Jul 18 #72

I doubt anything hit his ear MorbidButterflyTat Jul 18 #81