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gfarber

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43. 13th Justice

Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:40 PM

Thursday

If Dems ever regain their power,
They'll change the Court, and soon, not an hour.
With filibusters gone,
A new act will be drawn,
To fix laws that stink, like a sour flower.

They'll balance the Court with a shift,
A 6-6 split, a much-needed lift.
But to make things right,
They’ll need a 13th in sight,
To end rulings that cause a rift.

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Balancing the Supreme Court with a new Chief Justice. [View all] kentuck Thursday OP

I kinda feel like a deal was made Calista241 Thursday #1

They can get whatever they want without the filibuster. kentuck Thursday #3

Get rid of it but also know that the Senate favors Republicans newdeal2 Thursday #6

I'm willing to take that chance. I want them to live and die by all the policies they claim to like In It to Win It Thursday #18

No, they can't SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #9

And with the filibuster, Democrats can do nothing about it.. kentuck Thursday #17

We'll agree to disagree n/t SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #23

Wait, what? moose65 Thursday #27

I'm saying that has there been no filibuster available SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #38

False Fiendish Thingy Thursday #31

It was only a reconciliation bill SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #40

We can agree to agree Fiendish Thingy Thursday #49

Do it with a populist gusto. kentuck Thursday #50

Precisely Fiendish Thingy Thursday #61

Oddly . . . Scubamatt Thursday #62

You noticed? kentuck Thursday #74

They did remove it for the tax cuts dsc Thursday #8

No, that was still reconciliation. Calista241 Thursday #12

It was but it violated the clear rules of reconcilliation dsc Thursday #14

Right! kentuck Thursday #19

The Senate has to vote to change the rules, and no such vote was taken. Calista241 Thursday #20

Do you a cite for that? dsc Thursday #72

The American Rescue Plan added 2.2 trillion to the deficit EdmondDantes_ Friday #104

That isn't chasing the baseline dsc Friday #106

We cannot use fear of what republicans might do to justify inaction Fiendish Thingy Thursday #32

Yeah something happened Bev54 Thursday #41

And exactly when could they have "balanced out the court" even if they got rid of the filibuster? Wiz Imp Thursday #51

With the majority, you can do away with the filibuster with a simple rule passed by Rules Committee. kentuck Thursday #52

Um, the President doesn't just appoint justices. They have to be confirmed by the Senate. Wiz Imp Thursday #56

True. kentuck Thursday #75

They had 50 senators it was the lack of will by Bev54 Thursday #83

It wasn't the lack of will. Wiz Imp Thursday #87

I understand all of that but what I failed to see was the will of the Bev54 Thursday #91

How do you know they didn't try to change minds? Wiz Imp Thursday #94

The first 2 years the Dems had the house and the senate Bev54 Thursday #82

There's a HUGE difference between lacking the will to do something Wiz Imp Thursday #88

It wasn't a mistake by the Democratic Party. Wiz Imp Thursday #66

I don't disagree but perhaps if they pushed harder to bring those Bev54 Thursday #85

Even if I ignore all the current Senators and agree they could possibly be convinced to support court expansion Wiz Imp Thursday #93

Justice Kagan would be a great Chief Justice musette_sf Thursday #2

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken... GiqueCee Thursday #55

It is not who they side with, it is following the law. Bev54 Thursday #86

and Sotomayor andJackson don't... GiqueCee Thursday #89

Of course they do but they are not all monolithic thinkers. Bev54 Thursday #90

I am in total agreement... GiqueCee Thursday #98

You can't change the Chief Justice, that's fantasy Polybius Thursday #4

But he can be impeached. kentuck Thursday #7

He won't be for that Polybius Thursday #10

Yeah, the Citizens United was a real winner, also. kentuck Thursday #13

By "slippery slope" I just meant if impeach a Justice for a ruling we don't agree with it would be unprecedented Polybius Thursday #24

I believe we had 60-vote majority when Joe Lieberman was a Senator? kentuck Thursday #33

Impeachment of justices is a fantasy that needs to be abandon. Calista241 Thursday #16

Impeachment and conviction are two different stories. kentuck Thursday #21

But you can change the rules on his authority Fiendish Thingy Thursday #34

Actually, you could Mountainguy Thursday #37

Isn't that what happened when Roberts was named Chief Justice? kentuck Thursday #39

The "Chief Justice" is not simply a member of the Court... appmanga Thursday #81

Which, again Mountainguy Thursday #97

Congress can actually do considerably more to rein in the Supreme Court unblock Thursday #5

You forgot the caveat Polybius Thursday #11

Congress can vote to change the law, right? kentuck Thursday #15

Sure Polybius Thursday #25

Nope Fiendish Thingy Thursday #30

See my last reply Polybius Thursday #59

Only if we elect a congress committed to doing so Fiendish Thingy Thursday #64

If not, we may have no other choice but to just wait, since Roberts, Alito, and especially Thomas are old Polybius Thursday #65

The first post on this particular sidebar ITAL Thursday #67

AFAIK the constitution is mute on the role of the chief Justice. Fiendish Thingy Thursday #69

Which would seemingly to lead us to Jackson's apocryphal challenge to Marshall. tritsofme Thursday #22

Well, if we're ignoring the constitution, all bets are off. unblock Thursday #26

The constitution can be interpreted Polybius Thursday #57

Congress can't make up powers for themselves, sure unblock Thursday #70

Nope Fiendish Thingy Thursday #29

We weren't talking about just expanding, I know that's fine Polybius Thursday #58

The powers the SCOTUS claims were only established via Marbury vs Madison Fiendish Thingy Thursday #63

Two questions that should be a litmus test for any Dem senate candidate: Fiendish Thingy Thursday #28

I agree that expanding the Court is the only way to undo the damage by Trump and Robert's Court. kentuck Thursday #35

Well, there are lots of other ideas Fiendish Thingy Thursday #45

Ketanji Brown Jackson for Chief!!!! elleng Thursday #36

Like their patron saint The Wizard Thursday #42

Republicans CAN NOT block a Democratic President from appointing a Supreme Court Justice as long as the Wiz Imp Thursday #54

13th Justice gfarber Thursday #43

Nice rhyme. kentuck Thursday #44

Best thing is to get rid of it Nasruddin Thursday #46

We need to get rid of the debt limit. markodochartaigh Thursday #47

Expand the court! We have to! LymphocyteLover Thursday #48

Perhaps it is unfortunate...? kentuck Thursday #53

I believe Chief Justice is an administrative role. LeftInTX Thursday #60

Now is not the time to be talking about expanding SCOTUS Shrek Thursday #68

Same thing for killing the filibuster FBaggins Thursday #71

It doesn't matter if they pass a new ruling by a 6-3 vote or a 9-3 vote. kentuck Thursday #77

Maybe not now Shrek Thursday #79

It seems like ForgedCrank Thursday #73

I think we've had time to "remember yesterday"... kentuck Thursday #78

If we change the rules to add SC justices, then nothing is stopping Republicans from doing the same. pcdb Thursday #92

what would the Repubs like to do that they haven't already done? kentuck Thursday #95

Suggest arrest of 6 of 9 Kid Berwyn Thursday #76

Arrest them for what? Shrek Thursday #80

Great! Maybe we can use our imagination? Kid Berwyn Thursday #84

Label them ForgedCrank Thursday #96

Trump is tossing citizens in prison without due process... Kid Berwyn Friday #99

Those things ForgedCrank Sunday #115

OK, and then TnDem Friday #100

I do not think that is a legitimate concern. kentuck Friday #101

Yes it would TnDem Friday #102

That would be true if there was no political price to pay. kentuck Friday #103

Now on rocket fuel TnDem Friday #105

We will have to disagree on this one. kentuck Friday #107

History TnDem Friday #108

We have that Court right now. kentuck Friday #109

No we don't TnDem Friday #110

No.It would not. kentuck Friday #111

OK, what do the voters have to do with it TnDem Friday #112

Unless the voters lose their right to vote... kentuck Friday #113

Maybe so...but remember TnDem Friday #114