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250. I agree to a point.

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:07 PM

Dec 2012

The ACLU has stood up for the klan quite a bit. So actually they also stand up for a right wing agenda.

The NRA has definitely taken a right hand turn.

Either way... ACLU supports the klan, or NRA supports Glen Beck, you want to support them, then do so... You then have to support your position, and deal with it.

Personally, I'd rather catch them with honey. You want to support the NRA, I'll tell you why I disagree and tell you my perspective. I think we'll catch more that way then just saying "NRA supporter! Shut them up!" And hiding their post.

DU has changed minds. I know this and feel it in my heart. How many trolls have been transformed? I can't say. But I know we have. We have spoken our side, time after time and this is what changes hearts. Censoring a person who may be ignorant may drive them elsewhere.

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Petition to forbid support of the NRA at DU [View all] michigandem58 Dec 2012 OP

K&R MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1

Exactly how are you going to decide who is or is not the NRA. Lionessa Dec 2012 #2

I'm talking about defending or supporting the NRA as an organization michigandem58 Dec 2012 #3

Well, I've seen none of those. Lionessa Dec 2012 #7

A few months back I had a conversation here about an NRA robocall I received that lied about Obama. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #118

Links would be nice, Lionessa Dec 2012 #127

How can I get back there? It only will take me to Nov. 18? The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #161

I found a thread like that. I just googled your screen name, NRA, and robocall. pnwmom Dec 2012 #373

is this what you're talking about? orleans Dec 2012 #375

Yes, thank you,orleans. Know I also know how to get there. Thanks again. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #467

So you are saying... ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #167

Once supposed proof is provided I will consider while I review said proof for Lionessa Dec 2012 #221

the nra heaven05 Dec 2012 #265

If I can get to it I will show you that it is not easy to be anti NRA sometimes on this site. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #356

Here you go. pnwmom Dec 2012 #374

So you have my posts..and your proof. I 'm not a liar. I have opinions that are not always accepted. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #468

well, in theory CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #150

Bullying is going on both directions. Lionessa Dec 2012 #239

That may well be true CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #285

Are you aware of the plank regarding the Democratic Party's stance on guns? Lionessa Dec 2012 #304

Yesterday I was accused of being NRA because I dared asked the question how would gun laws have Heather MC Dec 2012 #46

It is a form of McCarthyism. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #113

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #176

And if not? Then, in your view, I'm supposed to support McCarthyism? No thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #183

Get over your strawman McCarthyism. morningfog Dec 2012 #196

Why should I care? I support free speech and dialog. I'm one of the liberals who upsets Rahm Emanuel AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #217

Because YOUR Speech Could Be Next fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #350

You better tell (D) brian Schweitzer. beevul Dec 2012 #240

This is probably my sole reason for opposing it davidpdx Dec 2012 #142

I am not against Gun Control however in this case Heather MC Dec 2012 #162

True. But Mom wouldn't have been able to buy a Glock. Besides, it's not a reason to try Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #324

What's your point? llmart Dec 2012 #330

My point is... Heather MC Dec 2012 #355

Your argument doesn't make any sense. llmart Dec 2012 #415

I didn't know that davidpdx Dec 2012 #371

Do the math. He was using clips that held 30 bullets each. pnwmom Dec 2012 #376

Can you cite some examples? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #107

That would be nice if it were true, kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #260

Everyone in this country marions ghost Dec 2012 #447

something tells haydukelives Dec 2012 #430

I was on a jury yesterday NWHarkness Dec 2012 #4

So you always get what you want, no system will offer you that. Lionessa Dec 2012 #8

Did I say I always get what I want? NWHarkness Dec 2012 #27

You apparently wanted the jury to come to your conclusion and make the decision Lionessa Dec 2012 #44

And you sound like an NRA apologist. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #152

Interesting since I'm not and have never been an NRA member. Lionessa Dec 2012 #227

Well, of course I wanted the jury to agree with me NWHarkness Dec 2012 #218

Not my high horse, the high horse of seeing that DU as it stands is just fine, Lionessa Dec 2012 #230

You don't even know how I voted on the issue NWHarkness Dec 2012 #238

I'm only replying to what you typed here. Lionessa Dec 2012 #242

What I typed NWHarkness Dec 2012 #244

Your opinion, regardless of your vote, was made clear in your initial response to my post. Lionessa Dec 2012 #252

If I didn't think the jury system worked, I wouldn't serve when asked NWHarkness Dec 2012 #259

My point to start with was that juries assure that there is no Lionessa Dec 2012 #267

I can't argue with that NWHarkness Dec 2012 #281

I will vote to hide any post that even comes within a country mile of suggesting NRA arguments alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #11

I'm doing the same thing. DocMac Dec 2012 #148

I'm using the Ignore feature for the first times since I joined DU. llmart Dec 2012 #328

I'm paying attention to who are the gun nuts RomneyLies Dec 2012 #357

Regardless of what? The content? davidthegnome Dec 2012 #366

I have a hard time with real problems, no need to create imaginary ones. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #457

That is probably because it doesn't violate a rule here. Chemisse Dec 2012 #87

Juries here are not held to the violation of rules, once alerted on Lionessa Dec 2012 #233

I see that this happens. Chemisse Dec 2012 #255

I've given up on trying to be objective RomneyLies Dec 2012 #358

I agree with you. axetogrind Dec 2012 #5

Those who are proud and open members for a start. If you give them money.... morningfog Dec 2012 #170

Oh! Thank you!!! I had a real honest laugh on that!!!! 6502 Dec 2012 #177

I'm game! BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #6

I'm in for all these reasons. n/t JimDandy Dec 2012 #189

The question is this, if the NRA is an anti- Democratic Party organization then it already is banned still_one Dec 2012 #9

You must not spend much time in the gungeon Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #13

Bullshit flame bait. Berserker Dec 2012 #18

It's true - they cheer any and all stupid NRA/ALEC "guns everywhere all the time" GOP gun laws jpak Dec 2012 #86

No, a pretty accurate description Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #279

No I don't, but just expressing my view still_one Dec 2012 #59

absolutely! DrDan Dec 2012 #74

Cite some examples. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #110

Do they talk about the NRA directly there? You need tell me, since I trashed that forum. freshwest Dec 2012 #368

Yes, both directly and indirectly. Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #423

The NRA and GOA are extremists. They refuse any gun control at all; their fantasy is a civil war. freshwest Dec 2012 #439

The NRA is anti-anti-gun policitians. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #108

If you look at who is on the leadership of the NRA one has to wonder if that is their only goal still_one Dec 2012 #147

I'm for it. They are truly a bad organization. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #10

they represent a sick, SICK culture Skittles Dec 2012 #12

K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #14

I wasn't sure when I first read your post...but Yeah, The NRA has deserved to be ignored. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #15

You are going at it wrong.. wasting precious energy.... lib2DaBone Dec 2012 #16

The NRA is a RW fascist front group. baldguy Dec 2012 #17

I absolutly agree! Berserker Dec 2012 #19

I am forced, by reality, to agree. jsmirman Dec 2012 #23

Reality has that effect etherealtruth Dec 2012 #41

What you said. axetogrind Dec 2012 #54

I don't know much about the org., myself. Except they support rightwingers & hate gun control. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #325

The organization itself? No problem with that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #20

Knr roody Dec 2012 #21

Freedom of speech? Sienna86 Dec 2012 #22

We don't discuss people's support of the Republican party, either jsmirman Dec 2012 #26

DU isn't a governmental entity etherealtruth Dec 2012 #30

Are They Democrats? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #445

You don't understand the First Amendment _ed_ Dec 2012 #53

Progressive? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #297

Wait a minute you are pretending this is a first amendment issue again? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #306

Yawn fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #310

I'm with you. Is DU a Democratic version of that other place? adigal Dec 2012 #394

Thank you fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #437

DU already restricts things like supporting Republicans _ed_ Dec 2012 #410

Are you not reading? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #436

Explanation of what? _ed_ Dec 2012 #440

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #441

Why do so FEW people know that's Freedom of Speech for the OWNERS of the means of that speech? patrice Dec 2012 #385

We Do Not Need to Censor Opinions; This is Not a Totalitarian Forum mckara Dec 2012 #24

Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #28

True That Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #425

Absolutely. Loyalty oaths and purity tests are a BIG FAIL. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #37

What loyalty oath or purity test is anyone asking you to take? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #69

Agreed. So is any form of McCarthyism and witch-hunting. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #119

Wouldn't you hunt real witches? DocMac Dec 2012 #168

Your religious intolerance is duly noted lbrtbell Dec 2012 #247

You don't need to tell me anything. DocMac Dec 2012 #287

Sad for you stonecutter357 Dec 2012 #413

I should have put the sarcasm thingy there. DocMac Dec 2012 #453

Sorry but you're on a private forum. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #335

It is not Republican Underground either, support for Republicans is not allowed here Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #43

The NRA is a right wing Republican organization _ed_ Dec 2012 #56

This just isn't so. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #112

The number of Democrats the NRA endorses is tiny and they are usually in noncompetetive races Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #131

4 million tools of gun and ammo corporations _ed_ Dec 2012 #139

Another True Scotsman! dairydog91 Dec 2012 #188

Another NRA troll! _ed_ Dec 2012 #411

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2012 #464

I was a member for years. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #421

I was a member for a year. I quit because "on other issues I am quite liberal and" ... they hung up. ieoeja Dec 2012 #433

In the South, we take the Democrats we can get. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #452

If you favor Republican policies, then I believe you should vote Republican. ieoeja Dec 2012 #459

I'll continue to vote for Democrats who support the second amendment. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #460

No, it's made of of 4,000,000 teabagger piece of shit thugs DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #418

We do censor opinions here, to some degree. Chemisse Dec 2012 #96

I agree, if we can not win the arguments, perhaps we are on the wrong side. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #135

+1 nt cstanleytech Dec 2012 #156

We censor all sorts of opinions. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #158

Thank you. 840high Dec 2012 #349

Good to know. So when do we stop banning right-wingers and Republicans NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #456

The NRA is Evil Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #25

Do you mean the NRA and GOP or do A Simple Game Dec 2012 #137

No support for NRA mainstreetonce Dec 2012 #29

We don't allow support of other far-right organizations villager Dec 2012 #31

How many far-right organizations do you know that endorse Democratic canidates? The NRA does. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #114

Given what we think we know about people predisposed towards gun violence and the easy of JackBoik Dec 2012 #172

I know of one that support blue dog dems, the one you are defending. morningfog Dec 2012 #179

DLC, Blue Dogs, and Third Way. ieoeja Dec 2012 #434

sounds good, so endorsed! California Expat Dec 2012 #32

I'm in. nt. Squinch Dec 2012 #33

K&R nt LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #34

I'm in. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #35

Me! Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #36

Rec to infinity! arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #38

I'm in we can do it Dec 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author sellitman Dec 2012 #40

Though I abhor the NRA... iandhr Dec 2012 #42

Support for the Republican Party has always been forbidden here Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #48

Fair point iandhr Dec 2012 #194

Why Don't We Talk More About Why The NRA policies are bad than talking about banning DU NRA .... fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #329

So let me ask this. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #45

Absolutely not, I think most of us do support mental health reform Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #61

The Republican answer to mental health? MightyMopar Dec 2012 #68

No. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #153

+1,000,000 lbrtbell Dec 2012 #257

We need both to succeed. Mental Health Reform and Gun Control Reform! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #268

I think support of any Republican Think Tanks or Lobbies of any sort should be banned here. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #337

It's just that the official NRA talking point response to this event has been Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #164

We need both to make a difference. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #193

Rec. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #47

NO... Did I make that plain enough? MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #49

signed barbtries Dec 2012 #50

No. (n/t) spin Dec 2012 #51

It seems reasonable to me union_maid Dec 2012 #52

Actually, my thought was we should all JOIN the NRA vlyons Dec 2012 #55

The majority of NRA members want background checks nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #463

I Agree And We Should Extend This To Cover The NSSF As Well cantbeserious Dec 2012 #57

What if the NRA supporters don't want non supporters on this site? oldbanjo Dec 2012 #58

This is why I let my membership expire. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #117

They can start their own petition, although I suspect they will be outnumbered. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #160

Go for it. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #165

How about just forbidding NRA talking points? frazzled Dec 2012 #60

The problem with that, is that to some, anything not completely anti-gun is an nra talking point. beevul Dec 2012 #248

Well, you now have given me a reason to join Peregrine Dec 2012 #62

Seriously? You would join the NRA, which you say you hate, Chemisse Dec 2012 #102

Easy to get behind this Politicub Dec 2012 #63

Gun lobby = GOP LeftInTX Dec 2012 #64

The NRA serves no purpose in a civil society. EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #65

Count me in. jillan Dec 2012 #66

No fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #67

I support free speech too, but this is not a government run site Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #75

I Respect Your Opinion fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #91

I have long been a huge advocate of the first amendment Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #101

Again fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #116

I do defend people's right to say what I spend a lifetime opposing Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #126

If You Say So fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #140

You clearly don't understand the first amendment Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #149

What's Your Problem fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #166

I am not picking a fight, I am stating a fact Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #185

I Have Stated I Agree That This Sight Has That Right fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #191

So do you think Nazis should be able to make posts advocating genocide on this site? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #197

They Are Not Democrats fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #204

So you support restricting some opinions on this site just not the NRA's Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #212

No fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #216

PS fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #220

No, I was not doing that. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #232

I do and I have as it relates to free speech fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #241

That doesn't make sense. Progressives don't oppose private ownership of the means of free speech. patrice Dec 2012 #380

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #390

I'm not sure. As I said, the post didn't make sense to me. Apparently, we agree. nt patrice Dec 2012 #392

We don't have to support every single liberal or progressive issues Ter Dec 2012 #333

Do you support hate speech? ReRe Dec 2012 #121

Hate Speech? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #136

Here's why union_maid Dec 2012 #175

Nonsense fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #187

Although you and I disagree with each other most of the time. oneshooter Dec 2012 #229

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #234

Although you and I have had many an argument, I also agree with you on this 100 percent FTGFN. beevul Dec 2012 #266

Thank you Beevul fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #271

I applaud your support of speech X_Digger Dec 2012 #295

Thank You X_Digger fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #300

You'll find I support the first, fourth, and fifth as vehemently as the second. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #305

Agree fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #309

If it were ever under siege, I'd be right there. ;) X_Digger Dec 2012 #312

I Do fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #318

Thanks for your reply ReRe Dec 2012 #181

72 RECs in less than an hour on a slow Sunday evening etherealtruth Dec 2012 #70

Aye UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #71

77 RECs ... still in under an hour etherealtruth Dec 2012 #72

Yes. 99Forever Dec 2012 #73

sign me up. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #76

K&R 1620rock Dec 2012 #77

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #78

Your post made me laugh out loud etherealtruth Dec 2012 #81

Seriously? The OP would be banned from Free Republic if they made even a small criticism of the NRA Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #83

K&R nt avebury Dec 2012 #79

I'm all for free speech. So when those children who were shot get to speak again, I'll ask them what world wide wally Dec 2012 #80

Who Said Supporting Free Speech Was Easy? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #288

Certainly not 20 school children in Newtown world wide wally Dec 2012 #334

Agree fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #338

K&R. tosh Dec 2012 #82

91 RECs on a lazy Sunday evening (within one hour) etherealtruth Dec 2012 #84

I don't really see anyone doing so. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #85

How is a petition handled around here? Thanks N/T busterbrown Dec 2012 #88

Recommending the post is the way the OP framed it etherealtruth Dec 2012 #93

how do you post a recommend. I’m so computer illiterate.... Thanks busterbrown Dec 2012 #134

At the bottom left of the original post is a box labeled DU REC etherealtruth Dec 2012 #144

Thanks so much! busterbrown Dec 2012 #370

Add my name to your petition. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #89

I don't care for the NRA or the gun people in general, but absolutely not in support of this Alamuti Lotus Dec 2012 #90

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #124

I don't care for or support the Tea Party ... etherealtruth Dec 2012 #132

there's plenty of sub-groups around I consider an enemy (or some less extreme facsimile of the idea) Alamuti Lotus Dec 2012 #209

Really, you don't think this site has a specific purpose etherealtruth Dec 2012 #214

Liberal Democrats own guns... A lot of them. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #381

How adult of you. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #219

Thank you michigandem58 for this OP! ReRe Dec 2012 #92

No. I don't support the NRA or defend them but this is the internet and it falls under free speech. crazy homeless guy Dec 2012 #94

This isn't "the internet." It's a community on the internet. Iris Dec 2012 #106

This is a private web site. You are here at the pleasure of the admins. Chemisse Dec 2012 #111

No it does not fall under free speech, this is a privately run site Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #115

Fine with me shenmue Dec 2012 #95

I keep trying to recommend this over and over again. aandegoons Dec 2012 #97

I'm not an NRA supporter. musical_soul Dec 2012 #98

signed, kestrel kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #99

came back just to K&R this deacon_sephiroth Dec 2012 #100

No. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #103

Here's why liberals should be against this. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #104

Sorry, but the NRA is not the same thing as a labor union Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #122

But it IS collective action. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #406

I can see why you call yourself ATYPICAL Skittles Dec 2012 #123

Like I said, you may not like what they work for, but you should respect collective action. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #405

The NRA secondvariety Dec 2012 #133

Like I said, you may not like what they work for, but you should respect collective action. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #404

Oh.... GAG. JimDandy Dec 2012 #178

Not impressed and not like a union union_maid Dec 2012 #184

Like I said, you may not like what they work for, but you should respect collective action. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #403

The PC Thought Police Just Alerted Your Post fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #286

The PC Thought Police? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #298

No fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #301

count me in n/t southern_belle Dec 2012 #105

Damn straight. tblue Dec 2012 #109

Yes! Rain Mcloud Dec 2012 #120

RW organizations shouldn't be given a platform here to broadcast their lies jsr Dec 2012 #125

I agree DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #128

piss on the NRA and its supporters.... mike_c Dec 2012 #129

Nyet. I don't see the problem this slippery slope seeks to overcome. Overt support WheelWalker Dec 2012 #130

See post 104 in this thread as an example Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #138

Why don't you alert on that post, then. Let's see how, under existing TOS, a jury WheelWalker Dec 2012 #159

I just sent one... Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #210

For the record the jury voted 4-2 to let it stand Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #236

Oh Good Grief-You Alerted Post 104 fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #284

I'll defend his right to say it too, as long as he does so at another site Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #292

You Alerted Someone Who By Your Own Words Did Not Violate TOS fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #293

Read my last post again Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #294

You Didn't Answer the Question fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #302

I did not violate the TOS, but you did Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #311

intellectually Dishonest fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #316

Pretending everything is black and white is what is intellectually dishonest Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #326

Pretending What? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #336

I did not say the jury was right, I said I can't say they are wrong. There is a difference. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #339

Oh ok fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #340

What a Condescending Load of ..... fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #343

Support fo rht NRA = support for the Right to Kill Babies and Adults RomneyLies Dec 2012 #141

If you're going to forbid support of the NRA skepticscott Dec 2012 #143

Exactly RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #163

^This^ pecwae Dec 2012 #399

+1 Veruca Salt Dec 2012 #427

Fuck the NRA MassedPole Dec 2012 #145

signed. robinlynne Dec 2012 #146

No way RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #151

I support this petition Duppers Dec 2012 #154

K&R valerief Dec 2012 #155

Get fucking real dude. LaPera Dec 2012 #157

NRA Endorses 14 House Democrats Over Republicans Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #169

So? They should not be welcome on DU or in the Democratic Party. morningfog Dec 2012 #180

That's what the petitioner wants. Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #208

So using talking points from those 14 Democrats could get you banned here if the crowd has its way. L0oniX Dec 2012 #192

Yes. Let's make it so. morningfog Dec 2012 #171

YES PLEASE! Tiggeroshii Dec 2012 #173

ON a regular day, anti-gun talk is only allowed on the home turf of the pro-gun section graham4anything Dec 2012 #174

The gun scum has to go! ellisonz Dec 2012 #182

I don't believe the DU admins are going to allow an angry crowd to decide anything for them. L0oniX Dec 2012 #186

K&R Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #190

Agree...remove any gun groups. nt SoapBox Dec 2012 #195

The tacky issue that separates the crowd...Choice vs. Authority libdem4life Dec 2012 #198

I'm in rurallib Dec 2012 #199

Purity Oath? JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #200

Why? Are you opposed to marriage equality for LGBT citizens? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #207

Did I say I am? JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #213

No, I'm curious, since you listed it as an example. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #226

Why do I feel like I'm being pulled over by the purity police? JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #378

Just so you know; Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #393

And, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." savannah43 Dec 2012 #215

Petition to forbid any DU support of predator drone strikes RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #201

not only that MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #202

Sign me up. Brigid Dec 2012 #203

Only if we can do the same for the ACLU. Glassunion Dec 2012 #205

The ACLU is hardly the same thing as the NRA, but you knew that Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #222

I agree to a point. Glassunion Dec 2012 #250

The ACLU has never stood up for the Klan's agenda Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #272

+a million. n/t JimDandy Dec 2012 #317

Both Would Argue They Support The Constitution's Bill of Rights fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #352

How do 3 Strikes laws (invented by the NRA) support the Bill of Rights? ieoeja Dec 2012 #438

I'm onboard with the petition jimlup Dec 2012 #206

I doubt it will do any good but you've got my support. n/t crim son Dec 2012 #211

Does support of the 2nd Amendment as currently interpreted by The Court equal support of the NRA? Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #223

Signed glinda Dec 2012 #224

No. If you don't think you can counter their arguments jeff47 Dec 2012 #225

The NRA has no "argument." It's just an Lex Dec 2012 #231

And banning them from DU does nothing. jeff47 Dec 2012 #277

+1 Lex Dec 2012 #228

Do you forbid support for the Second Amendment? nt jody Dec 2012 #235

The Second Amendment seems to be doing JUST FINE. Lex Dec 2012 #245

But that's the main NRA talking point, something the OP wants to oppose. nt jody Dec 2012 #249

Go support the NRA someplace else. It's a big internet. nt Lex Dec 2012 #254

I support the Democratic Party platform that says "Firearms. We recognize that the individual right jody Dec 2012 #263

You definitely can support the party platform withOUT supporting the NRA. Lex Dec 2012 #269

No, I welcome multiple viewpoints on the gun issue Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #246

See #249 nt jody Dec 2012 #253

There are supporters of gun rights who oppose the NRA, they are welcome here Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #261

Exactly. Lex Dec 2012 #270

I've been a DUer since Jan 2001 and understand but the OP advocated banning NRA talking points. jody Dec 2012 #273

Read the OP again, it does not advocate banning NRA talking points Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #274

Mea culpa you are correct. It was in the posts of the thread. My concern is still there. nt jody Dec 2012 #280

How about support for the NRA's gun safety courses? Kaleva Dec 2012 #315

Nope, the NRA is not a legitimate gun safety organization Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #323

I could do that but their own instructors are trained by the NRA Kaleva Dec 2012 #327

I know that at least here in MN we can get safety classes from the Department of Natural Resources Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #332

Who is trying to pretend? Kaleva Dec 2012 #341

Look, no one is doing background checks on you to know who you take gun safety courses from Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #345

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #237

I'll sign. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #243

K&R FreeState Dec 2012 #251

I doubt it will happen but I'm all for it! Walk away Dec 2012 #256

Signed n/t lupinella Dec 2012 #258

Howard Dean, you're not wanted here RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #262

Is Howard Dean going to come to this site and make pro-NRA posts? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #276

Nosiree! Not anymore. You've put the fear of God into him. Well done! n/t RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #278

I'm a 'lifer' with the NRA. Christmas gift from an uncle some 30 years ago. Thought many times Purveyor Dec 2012 #264

No Android3.14 Dec 2012 #275

Kicked and Recommended defacto7 Dec 2012 #282

The NRA is an arm of the GOP. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #283

I sort of though that was a given? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #289

Those NRA cowards who enabled this have yet to say anything about it. Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #290

Sure. Seems like a nothingburger though, a solution for nonexistent problem. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #291

We need a Ribbon humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #296

Done. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #299

Count me in... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #303

Yes, signed wholeheartedly! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #307

K&R Sedona Dec 2012 #308

We don't need purity tests AlbertCat Dec 2012 #313

K&R RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #314

Oh and are we going to ban free speach while we are at it? Oldenuff Dec 2012 #319

agreed KILL THE WISE ONE Dec 2012 #379

K and FUCKING R! 47of74 Dec 2012 #320

Aye. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #321

Nah. Slippery slope. You'll start getting people alerting all over the place, accusing others of Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #322

Long overdue that support of a highly conservative right wing organization... Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #331

no brainer upi402 Dec 2012 #342

no nadine_mn Dec 2012 #344

The NRA is a blip compared to the 60+MILLION who voted to PrezO. VPStoltz Dec 2012 #346

No Flatpicker Dec 2012 #347

Fully agree BainsBane Dec 2012 #348

I'm in Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #351

Proud to be rec 300 RetroLounge Dec 2012 #353

How is this even an issue? NRA is joined to the GOP by the hip. It has no place here. McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #354

Seems worse to me than advocating for ALEC Major Nikon Dec 2012 #359

+1000 ellisonz Dec 2012 #360

Not now, not ever. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #361

This site censors stuff all the time Paulie Dec 2012 #362

K&R Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #363

Call me crazy but... Lost-in-FL Dec 2012 #364

Some material is showing up on Face Book that says a significant majority of NRA members are patrice Dec 2012 #391

. wakeoftheflood Dec 2012 #365

So who determines what is support of the NRA? davidthegnome Dec 2012 #367

just for what 5 or 10 rounds had to have done to those kids that their families had to bury makes me Divine Discontent Dec 2012 #369

Slow down and really think about solutions, NOT arguments... jonesgirl Dec 2012 #372

This message was self-deleted by its author KatyAnn Dec 2012 #377

Stay please, our strength is in our diversity. KILL THE WISE ONE Dec 2012 #384

Someone needs to do their dirty sock laundry RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #396

JUST LEAVE Skittles Dec 2012 #397

We are on DU BECAUSE it censors the GOP worldview. And thank God for that. harun Dec 2012 #446

If we still had the UNREC I would use it on this whole thread. KILL THE WISE ONE Dec 2012 #382

Did you read the Terms of Service you agreed to when you joined? ellisonz Dec 2012 #383

so now you threatening me KILL THE WISE ONE Dec 2012 #386

Wha? ellisonz Dec 2012 #387

It's not your board, so it's not your free speech. Constitutional law guarantees free speech to the patrice Dec 2012 #389

There IS a gag rule against pushing Republican positions AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #422

There are people on DU who freely bash President Obama. If that can be allowed, gotta allow the rare RBInMaine Dec 2012 #388

Neither should be allowed. aandegoons Dec 2012 #395

Let em speak... WhoWoodaKnew Dec 2012 #398

Ahem... WRONG. TheAmbivalante Dec 2012 #400

Amen Stuckinthebush Dec 2012 #417

+1 nt shireen Dec 2012 #454

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #401

For many reasons, no. I propose increasing moderation and jury removal of nra/gun posts outside geckosfeet Dec 2012 #402

if moderation is your solution, there needs to be either a new or different additioinal host added Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #424

As much as I loathe the NRA, I vote against censorship. marble falls Dec 2012 #407

dont like the NRA rdking647 Dec 2012 #408

Ban? Forbid? Brainstormy Dec 2012 #409

It's truly chilling to witness mob psychology in action RufusTFirefly Dec 2012 #412

Why the hell would any democrat support the NRA? workinclasszero Dec 2012 #414

Ugh...hell no. I won't support this silliness Stuckinthebush Dec 2012 #416

Yeppers. philly_bob Dec 2012 #419

Yep JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #420

Agreed !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #426

I'm undecided & concerned about the board being swamped by trollish users in either case, so patrice Dec 2012 #428

NRA is a terrorist organization. HootieMcBoob Dec 2012 #429

Signed. TO HELL WITH THE NRA!! Erose999 Dec 2012 #431

If it can be done, I'm for it. Sparkly Dec 2012 #432

Count me in Auggie Dec 2012 #435

I think the 2nd Amendment should be repealed and I don't agree with this broadcaster75201 Dec 2012 #442

Nope NICO9000 Dec 2012 #443

Agreed. LP2K12 Dec 2012 #444

I'm not willing to chill free-wheeling speech here made in good faith. closeupready Dec 2012 #448

Let's keep this kicked. nt valerief Dec 2012 #449

I'm in. nt oxymoron Dec 2012 #450

HELL YES. rivegauche Dec 2012 #451

Not your father's NRA anymore. colorado_ufo Dec 2012 #455

Yeah, Wayne LaPierre has to go. He's perverted the NRA. DinahMoeHum Dec 2012 #458

Yes. nt ElbarDee Dec 2012 #461

I will sign to this. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #462

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2012 #465

Anyone who openly supports the NRA, supports the GOP. onehandle Dec 2012 #466