General Discussion

leftyladyfrommo

(19,910 posts)

136. This kind of thing is what scares me most.

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:17 PM

Dec 2012

I don't worry about the people out there who just own guns that they keep locked up in their gun cabinet so they can go hunting once a year. Or go down and target shoot.

I worry about the wackos that seem to be able to get those guns easier than they could score a bag of kush.

We just had a guy here in Missouri that was planning on just going into the Walmart store and shooting people at random. Or, pissed off?, just grab a couple of assault rifles and wipe out everyone you had a gripe with at your old job. Or just mow down your whole family because you have had it with your bitch of a wife.

So much uncontrolled rage out there it is just unbelievable. And it's not just here. A man went into a school in China and started stabbing children - I just read that this morning. It's happening all over the world.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

320 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA [View all] WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP

This only proves that teachers should be armed! bunnies Dec 2012 #1

And the students. Don't forget the students. Politicub Dec 2012 #44

Fuck it. Lets start in the womb. bunnies Dec 2012 #65

Good idea - Put microphones in the womb so the NRA can provide prenatal safety training, too Politicub Dec 2012 #85

Taa-daa! Gun problem solved. bunnies Dec 2012 #104

Done! If only they had asked us to fix the fiscal cliff! Politicub Dec 2012 #113

lmao! bunnies Dec 2012 #124

Just think of the possibilities. SheilaT Dec 2012 #196

yup. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #71

I think the Michigan legislature this week had a bill allowing firearms in schools bulloney Dec 2012 #261

They do. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #307

That's right! If a shooter started a rampage in a preschool, backscatter712 Dec 2012 #114

Start a movement. That guns belong only in certain places might soon be obvious JDPriestly Dec 2012 #92

A few might. No doubt. bunnies Dec 2012 #106

I know you're being sarcastic. . . BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #240

Guns are more important than people. Iggo Dec 2012 #2

5, 4, 3, 2 , 1 mikeysnot Dec 2012 #3

Disposable American's otohara Dec 2012 #51

I blame every damned Gun Lover for every gun death. tblue Dec 2012 #110

There is, I think, a pretty clear distinction between hifiguy Dec 2012 #183

Except that I don't notice the SheilaT Dec 2012 #198

You do have a point. hifiguy Dec 2012 #224

I blame every damned Car Lover for every traffic death. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #248

Didn't take long for that stupid argument to be trotted out. n/t kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #260

Not stupid at all. Are you and I to blame for child pornography and botnets? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #262

Nice try, But the NRA always says the answer is more Concealed carry rustydog Dec 2012 #299

and there it is. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #273

At least to drive car ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #282

Thought that was the countdown for the locking question everything Dec 2012 #142

DU might not need a Gun Forum anymore JimDandy Dec 2012 #274

The MIC agrees with you. n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #135

You inspired me. This is on my FB right now. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #264

Excellent! Iggo Dec 2012 #268

No - Thank YOU. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #270

Stealing & reposting on FB--- AmyDeLune Dec 2012 #302

Great! Spread it far & wide. Nt Care Acutely Dec 2012 #313

But but we got to wait for the facts upaloopa Dec 2012 #4

But they're just tools. sadbear Dec 2012 #5

Who the NRA? WaitWut Dec 2012 #17

They're a box of hammers. sadbear Dec 2012 #18

With the smart ones billh58 Dec 2012 #93

Sarcasm? gcomeau Dec 2012 #21

Guns don't kill people... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #164

It's almost daily now. 99Forever Dec 2012 #6

A "+" for this byeya Dec 2012 #54

It might actually be gollygee Dec 2012 #98

More common everywhere. vduhr Dec 2012 #202

Daily reteachinwi Dec 2012 #218

+1,000 XtopherXtopher Dec 2012 #244

Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #7

What an asinine post. nt sufrommich Dec 2012 #9

...and that's the 352,998th time this shit has been posted. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #10

LOL, posting 'fuck' a lot does not help make your point! Logical Dec 2012 #49

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #52

..... bunnies Dec 2012 #77

+1 Little Star Dec 2012 #103

Only a +1? Fuck no, give it a +1000! RC Dec 2012 #112

fucking A! Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #109

I was gonna fuckin' say that. ET Awful Dec 2012 #159

please heaven05 Dec 2012 #133

There in lies the problem. Too many people don't understand the problem. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #230

i heaven05 Dec 2012 #237

That is the most fucking awesome fucking post ever!! missingthebigdog Dec 2012 #157

I FUCKING agree. sellitman Dec 2012 #167

Fucking A William Pitt! +1,000,000 callous taoboy Dec 2012 #205

You win. Brigid Dec 2012 #222

+100,000,000 rbrnmw Dec 2012 #236

Maybe... MattSh Dec 2012 #249

I'll second that. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #290

There was this soldier talking about a beautiful fucking girl . . . tclambert Dec 2012 #286

Fuck yeah. SalmonChantedEvening Dec 2012 #311

FUCKIN A! BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #314

Gun fucking nuts mikeysnot Dec 2012 #64

Detectives McNulty and Bunk have a message for you. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #83

I thought of that scene as well eaglesfanintn Dec 2012 #156

Right, we don't have time to have sex with one another; we need to look at this problem. patrice Dec 2012 #126

And dead school children does not help the counterpoint... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #146

And your choice of username has no bearing upon your responses, either. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #215

Being a smartarse about Gun Violence does make a point intaglio Dec 2012 #246

+1. dchill Dec 2012 #101

I agree. vduhr Dec 2012 #207

Your point? upaloopa Dec 2012 #12

Right on time RetroLounge Dec 2012 #24

get some new material.. frylock Dec 2012 #30

Well that settles everything. Lets dismiss decades of gun violence because a crazy person Politicub Dec 2012 #50

Uh, two years ago. Brainstormy Dec 2012 #128

And if that crazy asshole would've had access to a gun, there would've been hundreds dead laundry_queen Dec 2012 #181

Well, obviously the Capitalists need to outsource more gun factories to China... sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #115

Now there's an idea! BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #315

Was this merely an aberration or a consistent event that happens weekly? LanternWaste Dec 2012 #143

The Gungeon crowd billh58 Dec 2012 #279

I note that no deaths were reported. That's the big difference. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #144

Don't you have some metal phallic liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #161

Not one death. Point proven. Fucking christ, you people. morningfog Dec 2012 #254

22 injured vs 26 DEAD ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #283

you are SOOOOO fucking pathetic Skittles Dec 2012 #289

You are a bad person _ed_ Dec 2012 #308

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT!! sufrommich Dec 2012 #8

Personally sarisataka Dec 2012 #11

If there was no gun you wouldn't have even heard upaloopa Dec 2012 #13

What the fuck are you talking about? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #16

People would not have heard of this school today upaloopa Dec 2012 #19

Still not following. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #25

Forget it upaloopa Dec 2012 #28

Sorry. You're going to be remembered . . . caseymoz Dec 2012 #170

I didn't make a pro gun argument. upaloopa Dec 2012 #232

Choices theKed Dec 2012 #58

Let me explain - instead of outdated tv commercials and sky writing, Politicub Dec 2012 #94

you are wrong. If there was any kind of killing at an elementary school it would have made news still_one Dec 2012 #75

Exactly. If the story read, "Multiple people, including children, have been killed [in multiple sta rhett o rick Dec 2012 #122

Dumb. A dozen kids stabbed in an elementary school? caseymoz Dec 2012 #168

I am pretty sure he's saying some children being shot to death is good publicity for the school. byeya Dec 2012 #70

Hi WilliamPitt, Scruffy Rumbler Dec 2012 #190

I fully agree sarisataka Dec 2012 #26

We have a higher tolerance for non-gun violence because it's much less likely to be lethal. jeff47 Dec 2012 #43

Homicide is much lower than it has been sarisataka Dec 2012 #67

You're ignoring the difficulty of getting to that result jeff47 Dec 2012 #88

For many reasons sarisataka Dec 2012 #100

The point is reducing the number of guns reduces the number of killings jeff47 Dec 2012 #116

Although we likely agree it is false equivalency sarisataka Dec 2012 #129

What part of "fewer" do you not understand? jeff47 Dec 2012 #223

Good idea sarisataka Dec 2012 #233

What part of having so many readily available guns around escalates the violence, eludes you? RC Dec 2012 #140

What part do you want clarified sarisataka Dec 2012 #153

Seriously?? Blue_Tires Dec 2012 #214

No, those would have been even bigger news sarisataka Dec 2012 #220

. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #125

NS, S. What's your point, that the school loves the publicity now? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #298

Jesus H Christ, there's some sick fucks out there! The most stunning part to me is... Little Star Dec 2012 #14

It's a K-4 school, there's not a kid in there who sufrommich Dec 2012 #22

TV reporter said it might have been two parents shooting it out. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #27

If that's true Will, neither parent should never have custody of children again. shraby Dec 2012 #57

Breaks my heart. Little Star Dec 2012 #32

Seriously. bunnies Dec 2012 #39

Fuck. We need some politicians with some courage. Laurian Dec 2012 #15

To do what, specifically? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #87

Why do you hesitate? We have a mass shooting every other week or so. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #158

Good start Tumbulu Dec 2012 #169

Why? Just look at most of the threads on this. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #227

Like maybe end the wars? Quit teaching people to kill others in other countries? L0oniX Dec 2012 #137

And a muslim problem The Straight Story Dec 2012 #20

*coughcough*falseequivalency*cough* theKed Dec 2012 #68

Selling fear, and people are buying, same thing (nt) The Straight Story Dec 2012 #84

Price we pay to allow almost any yahoo to walk around with a gun or amass a cache of lethal weapons. Hoyt Dec 2012 #23

Thanks Hoyt... sarisataka Dec 2012 #35

Is the Nuge theKed Dec 2012 #76

They don't keep promises... ReRe Dec 2012 #102

But if everyone of those 1st graders is armed... Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #29

But those kids could just have easily been run over by cars, don't you know? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #31

Post #7 WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #34

ZOMG, spare a prayer for my co-worker lapislzi Dec 2012 #33

You have my prayers sarisataka Dec 2012 #37

Yikes 1gobluedem Dec 2012 #40

!!! bunnies Dec 2012 #46

oh wow barbtries Dec 2012 #74

No word yet. lapislzi Dec 2012 #86

so sorry. barbtries Dec 2012 #172

I can only imagine the terror of getting a phone call sufrommich Dec 2012 #81

When I was working on a daily newspaper's news desk several years ago, we got a call that there had Brickbat Dec 2012 #120

I totally understand, my reaction would sufrommich Dec 2012 #123

Any word yet? bunnies Dec 2012 #186

No, this is horrible. lapislzi Dec 2012 #203

omg. You must all be wreck. bunnies Dec 2012 #206

still no word? barbtries Dec 2012 #208

Apparently the co-workers six-year-old boy Tsiyu Dec 2012 #266

oh no barbtries Dec 2012 #267

I know Tsiyu Dec 2012 #271

this so has me in tears.... good thoughts for him, but the fear..... nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #212

Praying for your co-worker and his children susanr516 Dec 2012 #228

Prayers for him and his kids wryter2000 Dec 2012 #234

Tears! Sending vibes, but I feel so helpless! freshwest Dec 2012 #245

Hey will, we cannot talk of guns while a gun crime nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #36

Guns are awesome!!!! More more more!!!! Politicub Dec 2012 #38

We DO NOT have a gun problem in America. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #41

Ding Ding Ding ReRe Dec 2012 #121

+1 AndyA Dec 2012 #189

And here I thought... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #194

Do you know what the two most IGNORED words in the second amendment are? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #209

tools? yea, fucking tools that kill. spanone Dec 2012 #269

I dunno, maybe SheilaT Dec 2012 #219

Jesus, for the millionth damn time, what is your fucking solution.... Logical Dec 2012 #42

300 million?! Holy Shit! bunnies Dec 2012 #47

Yes, and a million more sold a month! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #53

Then we should put an immediate halt to sales, don't you think? Politicub Dec 2012 #62

No way to do it! No politician will touch banning guns! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #163

If this keeps up, public opinion will change. caseymoz Dec 2012 #185

No way at this point. We can't keep meth off the street and it is illegal! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #193

Which isn't relevant caseymoz Dec 2012 #257

Exactly. +10000000000000000000000000000000 Bake Dec 2012 #259

Until a death effects them in some way, or they become the target and start dying King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #303

wow. bunnies Dec 2012 #97

Yes, while we sit around doing nothing over next decade, another 100 million will be produced and Hoyt Dec 2012 #89

I just cant get past these numbers. bunnies Dec 2012 #118

Fortunately, less than half the population owns even one. A lot of folks have a bunch. Hoyt Dec 2012 #131

I used to own two guns about 20 years ago... bunnies Dec 2012 #139

Either reinterpret 2nd amendment or, repeal it.n/t godai Dec 2012 #48

Tax ammo like cigarettes. Actually, more than cigarettes. Politicub Dec 2012 #56

And a man wanting to shoot up a place will worry about money for ammo??? Logical Dec 2012 #72

I don't give a fuck about your stupid anecdote. Do something "logical" and Politicub Dec 2012 #78

They will be less likely to practice their deadly hobby. n/t godai Dec 2012 #82

There is a tax on ammo right now: it should be increased to $100 a cartridge. That means the apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #281

I have a better idea than taxing ammo. the devil Dec 2012 #300

Interesting! Haven't thought about it like that Politicub Dec 2012 #301

You said 'fuck.' WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #60

Yes, to ridicule your use of it! Logical Dec 2012 #61

Clever. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #69

How about things like uniform federal gun laws, for starters? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #73

Yes and liability insurance Tumbulu Dec 2012 #175

Making them illegal theKed Dec 2012 #79

First... gcomeau Dec 2012 #107

Agreed -- Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #229

Begin with MENTAL HEALTH PARITY in ALL health insurance coverage. nt patrice Dec 2012 #117

I 100% agree! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #162

If we don't get people to address the ROOT CAUSES of their problems - themselves - stuff patrice Dec 2012 #173

+1 L0oniX Dec 2012 #138

300 million?! That's almost as many guns as there are Americans. KamaAina Dec 2012 #145

excuse us for complaining, but the object of your desire is murdering children DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #160

I have no tie to guns! I just want to know how you stop a lone nut when.... Logical Dec 2012 #204

I'd applaud that. abelenkpe Dec 2012 #195

So let's do it. SheilaT Dec 2012 #221

Here's mine: Turn 'em all in tomorrow. Every last damn one. lastlib Dec 2012 #239

If only 99% get turned in, then what? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #250

read what i said.... lastlib Dec 2012 #291

And just how do propose to bring this about? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #316

That will never happen and you know it. And statements like yours do not help. Logical Dec 2012 #278

And in Michigan they just passed a law to allow conceal and carry in schools! erinlough Dec 2012 #45

"COME on, dose peoples coulda just as eezuly been kilt wit a lawnchaih!!!". . . or something . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #55

THANK you, William! nt patrice Dec 2012 #59

Without knowing the particular facts here, what could have prevented this is the question? still_one Dec 2012 #63

What we can say is that lax gun laws and easy gun availability increases the number of shootings DanTex Dec 2012 #90

Agreed /nt still_one Dec 2012 #91

Oh, I don't know, maybe tightly regulated billh58 Dec 2012 #111

There used to be restriction on assault weapons, until the republicans took over. You are right, still_one Dec 2012 #256

All babies should be issued guns at birth. Lint Head Dec 2012 #66

And receiving "safety training" at pre-school Doctor_J Dec 2012 #171

Kids are not going to want to go to school !!!!!! ReRe Dec 2012 #80

The Newtown Bee reported that a police officer carried a seriously wounded child from the building Little Star Dec 2012 #95

I'm at a loss for words. So I will merely K&R. - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #96

you're right heaven05 Dec 2012 #99

Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #105

I am beginning to think that Obama... dchill Dec 2012 #108

Meh...he might as well. CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #180

I will keep the TV off today gollygee Dec 2012 #119

Huge K and R. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #127

What's the magical ingredient in this OP that allows it to remain? OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #130

Many DU members own guns. Most polls I've seen here in the past have it at about 50%. L0oniX Dec 2012 #148

Civil discussion about a societal problem doesn't have to equate to an anti-gun rant... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #155

Obviously you don't want gun control spoken of AT ALL. Because gun tragedies are more than weekly CreekDog Dec 2012 #187

Some might call this op a disscussion. I call it a reactionary rant. L0oniX Dec 2012 #242

The problem is JimDandy Dec 2012 #287

Much as using these deaths to imply this is a necessary price we pay LanternWaste Dec 2012 #238

Dividing DU members over gun ownership is exactly what the NRA would like to see. L0oniX Dec 2012 #243

+1 nt sellitman Dec 2012 #176

absent mass slaughter discussions are relegated to the gungeon Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #247

FYI, breaking nooz is getting locked as off topic nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #132

Gee ...how long have we been at war somewhere? Are we a military country now? Seems so ...and... L0oniX Dec 2012 #134

This kind of thing is what scares me most. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2012 #136

So your issue is not with guns, but with whackos? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #263

My proposed solution guardian Dec 2012 #141

Couldn't agree more Carolina Dec 2012 #147

CNN reports one child dead at 12:23PM EST ReRe Dec 2012 #149

I just saw on CNN the principal and shool psychologist were killed. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2012 #151

Maybe we have a violence problem in this country. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #150

No, it's a gun violence problem. DanTex Dec 2012 #178

We have really reduced drunk driving accidents by consistently Tumbulu Dec 2012 #179

We have reduced gun violence even more than drunk driving hack89 Dec 2012 #280

Well clearly we have a long way to go Tumbulu Dec 2012 #320

+1000 billh58 Dec 2012 #317

I propose eaglesfanintn Dec 2012 #184

This should be constructive NeedleCast Dec 2012 #152

Back atcha! billh58 Dec 2012 #285

Newtown is a very upscale area Freddie Dec 2012 #154

we live in a violent country SHRED Dec 2012 #165

K & R AND - FUCK YOU NRA ! ! ! ! FUCK you too, to the NRA supporting/ anti-sanity brigade. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #166

Agreed! Fuck the NRA and its cowardly, fetishistic supporters. LonePirate Dec 2012 #174

+ 1000 Care Acutely Dec 2012 #199

Holy Moly, Mother of God... differing reports every 5 minutes! Last report 10 kids/11 adults!!! ReRe Dec 2012 #177

Associated Press: 27 dead, 18 children WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #182

I'm having a panic attack, and I'm no where near there! ReRe Dec 2012 #192

Happy Fuckin NRA notundecided Dec 2012 #188

We Truly Are Reaping What We've Sown triplepoint Dec 2012 #191

When owning is gun is more important than anything else this is a as sick as it gets. Harriety Dec 2012 #197

my school system locks the elementary doors during the school day madrchsod Dec 2012 #200

K&R abelenkpe Dec 2012 #201

I agree with your post, especially the last two words. (And no, URLs aren't words.) 2ndAmForComputers Dec 2012 #210

This is DOMESTIC TERRORISM SCVDem Dec 2012 #211

It is time that WE THE PEOPLE - Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #213

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #216

Silly comparison Lucy21 Dec 2012 #231

On this sad day I welcome you to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #277

too many guns and not enough care about people's mental health. Whisp Dec 2012 #217

It's a moral outrage to have more gun control laws. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #225

The biggest "gun problem" is ... BlueStreak Dec 2012 #226

You have just posted billh58 Dec 2012 #318

The NRA can go fuck off. The propaganda has got to stop. Initech Dec 2012 #235

do we have a gun problem or a crazy fucking person problem? NT underoath Dec 2012 #241

Hey, you! Watch it with that reasoned approach. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #251

awww... "a lynch mob" fascisthunter Dec 2012 #312

We have a Crazy Fucking Person with Access to Guns Problem so yea, time to have that convo Blaukraut Dec 2012 #255

What does that mean? _ed_ Dec 2012 #309

Now wasn't that special... billh58 Dec 2012 #319

Oh hell no -- no problem -- nothing to see here -- move along Hekate Dec 2012 #252

Fucking guns and the fucking gun nuts and the fucking gun lobby and morningfog Dec 2012 #253

yeah marions ghost Dec 2012 #294

Kick & Rec. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #258

It isn't a gun problem. It's a crazy problem. Yukari Yakumo Dec 2012 #265

Bullshit! billh58 Dec 2012 #276

This should be an OP- very good! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #295

Your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in this country is abridged/ indepat Dec 2012 #272

WELL SAID AND THANK YOU! Thank you... VOX Dec 2012 #275

These Repeat Guns and Semi-Automatics are the danger. Who needs these? KoKo Dec 2012 #284

And the Kindergartener's own teacher was the registered owner of those guns that killed them, JimDandy Dec 2012 #288

WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE CRISIS! lbrtbell Dec 2012 #292

Yes. Let's not blame anything but what this is. Gregorian Dec 2012 #293

Mental health is a part billh58 Dec 2012 #296

K&R n/t lupinella Dec 2012 #297

Yo William King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #304

GUNS = DEATH King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #305

Hell yes, we do have a problem. In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #306

Stop Teaching Gun Violence! Maineman Dec 2012 #310