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Happy Hoosier

(9,125 posts)
21. Very true.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:32 PM
Oct 2023

Unless one genuinely advocates for teh dossolutiobn of Israel (which, simply put, WIL NOT HAPPEN), Israel has a right, and even a responsibility to defend itself and it's citizens.

Putting aside what are (IMO) legitimate criticisms of how Israel has managed this conflict, the brutal attack by Hamas, targeting primarily civilians in Israel demands a response. More that that, it demands that Hamas be removed as the controlling authority of Gaza.

No question.

The attack can in NO WAY be seen as legitimate "resistance."

So, the desctuction of Hamas has to happen. If Israel doesn't do it, a murderous entitiy can declare victory.

But destroying Hamas in Gaza means that Israel must, necessarily, utterly devastate Gaza. And there's the rub

Hamas embeds itself, deliberately, in civilian concentrations, an dindeed, in normally protected civilian structure... apartment high-rises, hospitals, schools. And more than that, Hamas WANTS there to be massive civilan casualties. The horror of their initial attacks will fade as week after week, video and photos of children dead in the rubble are plastered all over media.

Even if Hamas' power is destoyed (which it will be), Another generation of Palestinians will be radicalized. And some segment of the world's population will have forgotten the horror of 10/7 and will remember the horror of what's about to happen.

It's a complete shit sandwhich for Israel.

Israel can MAYBE come out ahead, if, after crushing Hamas, they all, or even facilitate and support, a massive humanitarian reconstructin in Gaza. There is a chance to to change the course of this conflict. But it will take a lot.

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Both-siderism is alive and well [View all] PCIntern Oct 2023 OP
You've basically encapsulated the difference between revenge and justice. rsdsharp Oct 2023 #1
I agree about the perpetrators... ExciteBike66 Oct 2023 #2
Exactly. Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #5
👆 This is an excellent idea. crickets Oct 2023 #16
Amnesty Internations and the UN don't agree with these claims RAB910 Oct 2023 #3
i am not emotionless, but even if it was my family, i would not approve of improper punishment. unblock Oct 2023 #4
Bringing HAMAS to justice is legitimate. Killing hundreds of thousands of families and children to Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #6
But no one knows how they can do one without the other ripcord Oct 2023 #8
Eyeshadow But see... PCIntern Oct 2023 #9
Israel has a right to defend itself... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #7
The West Bank settlements did not occur in a vacuum: PCIntern Oct 2023 #10
None of this happened in a Vacuum. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #12
What pisses me off is Israel has been put into an untenable position by Hamas. It is damn if they JohnSJ Oct 2023 #11
Very true. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #21
People right inthewind21 Oct 2023 #22
I mourn for the innocent civilian casualties on both sides... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #13
The blame Israel first brigade is the result of 2k years of indoctrinated hatred. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #14
comparing all Palestinians to Hamas MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #15
The word "all" is not in my lexicon: PCIntern Oct 2023 #17
you do makes comparisons though MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #19
"This is the enemy." Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #18
Yes: you cannot coexist with an entity which is PCIntern Oct 2023 #24
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2023 #20
you've taken a side treestar Oct 2023 #23
KnR for you, PCI Hekate Oct 2023 #25
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