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Nevilledog

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Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:24 PM Sep 2023

How much would your house be worth if the Trump Organization owned it? [View all]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/27/trump-property-inflated-values/

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https://archive.ph/2oUGi


A year offering no shortage of bad news for Donald Trump outdid itself Tuesday afternoon, with New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron ruling that the former president’s namesake business, the Trump Organization, had repeatedly and fraudulently inflated the value of its real estate properties.

The ruling held no shortage of condemnations for the company and for its lawyers, whose reliance on already-rejected arguments spurred Engoron to issue sanctions against them. But the ruling was also remarkable for its delineation of the scale of that inflation.

It was by no means a secret that Trump in particular had a habit of overstating his net worth. This is well documented, including in interviews where Trump announced that his net worth depended on his mood. But there’s a difference between Trump, salesman-turned-politician, overstating things to close the deal and the Trump Organization presenting inflated data to potential lenders. In one case, Trump is trying to extract your vote in a marketplace bounded almost solely by the constraints of personal honesty and free speech. In the latter, there are legal ramifications for misleading potential investors — ramifications that the judge felt should apply to the Trump Organization.

The ruling walked through the scale of the inflation undertaken by the Trump Organization over the past 10 to 15 years. For example, consider the gap in valuation given to Trump’s Seven Springs property in Westchester County, N.Y. The judge compared its appraised value with what was presented in Statements of Financial Condition (SFCs) presented to potential investors.

“Not withstanding receiving market values from professional appraisals in 2000, 2006, 2012, and 2014 valuing Seven Springs at or below $30 million, Donald Trump’s 2011 SFC reported the value to be $261 million, and his 2012, 2013 and 2014 SFCs reported the value to be $291 million.”


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The archive link only shows the valuations based on a $400k home, but you get the idea.
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And where were the banks, insurance companies, etc. that should have been doing due diligence? SWBTATTReg Sep 2023 #1
Aren't the banks supposed to get an underwriter? Dirty Socialist Sep 2023 #20
I imagine so, plus more since more $ is involved, I'd bring in everything I could to verify SWBTATTReg Sep 2023 #24
Our houses are worth how much the Saudis will pay to bribe us. Irish_Dem Sep 2023 #2
$5 million rubles Wicked Blue Sep 2023 #3
The current value of a ruble is $0.01, or 1 penny. patphil Sep 2023 #11
In that case, 5 zillion rubles Wicked Blue Sep 2023 #18
Now you're talkin'! patphil Sep 2023 #23
A dollar-twelve-ninety-eight. marble falls Sep 2023 #4
A brazillion $s! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2023 #5
Customer::: How much for that fiddle? keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #6
Eleventy billion dollars. MontanaMama Sep 2023 #7
Steph Head!! 👋 rubbersole Sep 2023 #10
Bingo! MontanaMama Sep 2023 #12
Well, if I'm applying for a loan at Deutsche Bank while Justice Kennedy's son is in charge.. rubbersole Sep 2023 #8
However much I could get Prince Bonesaw to pay for it, Ocelot II Sep 2023 #9
Doing the math, multiply your Zillow value by 40 tinrobot Sep 2023 #13
Sheesh--I'm worth over $10 million? ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #21
2.4 Gagillion dollars! Suck it Bitcoin!!! SKKY Sep 2023 #14
Did he pay an equally excessive amount of property taxes, based on his valuation? DFW Sep 2023 #15
He appealed the $26 million assessment as too high, 3 years ago Nevilledog Sep 2023 #16
$10 billion if used for collateral, a buck fifty if paying property tax. Midnight Writer Sep 2023 #17
More important is how much I would weigh on Trump's scale unitedwethrive Sep 2023 #19
I can tell you how the weight number works. ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #22
For tax purposes or as security on a loan? struggle4progress Sep 2023 #25
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