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ok_cpu

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Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:09 AM Sep 2023

Are liberals not irritated by Ross Douthat? [View all]

I'm reading this New Yorker profile and thinking I'm from another planet. He frequently drives me nuts. Maybe even more so than Brooks, as we know what we're getting from Brooks.

Maybe as a Catholic I react so strongly to his ultra-conservative views on Catholism to the detriment of everything else he has to say?

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/09/18/ross-douthats-theories-of-persuasion

This summer, Ross Douthat, liberal America’s favorite conservative commentator, wrote a piece about liberal America’s least favorite Democrat, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Douthat argued in his New York Times column that an unwillingness to debate Kennedy—who has claimed that childhood vaccines cause autism, that 5G networks are part of a mass-surveillance system, and that covid was designed to spare Jewish and Chinese people—was an insufficient response to voters who are increasingly distrustful of the establishment. “If you don’t think he should be publicly debated, you need some other theory of how the curious can be persuaded away from his ideas,” Douthat wrote. “Right now the main alternative theory seems to be to enforce an intellectual quarantine, policed by media fact-checking and authoritative expert statements. And I’m sorry, but that’s just a total flop.”
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Never heard of the guy calguy Sep 2023 #1
"Conservative intellectual" Freddie Sep 2023 #2
its not an oxymoron unfortunately. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #18
It's hard to be irritated if you don't read his nonsense at all. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #3
This is probably the correct response to his nonsense ok_cpu Sep 2023 #8
I'm constantly amazed at how wrong "journalists" are about liberals. yardwork Sep 2023 #22
Haven't paid him any attention... dchill Sep 2023 #4
He's definitely a shit. n/t ok_cpu Sep 2023 #9
I'm a live without him. dchill Sep 2023 #10
super irritated. But I read his NYT opinion pieces, mostly for the hundreds of wiggs Sep 2023 #5
I'm not irritated. brooklynite Sep 2023 #6
Where does one draw a line who they will debate? RFK Jr. is a dilemma of sorts on many fronts dutch777 Sep 2023 #7
He's a freaking loon. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #20
Why does liberal America have a favorite conservative commentator? Never heard of the guy Autumn Sep 2023 #11
I don't have any idea who he is. sinkingfeeling Sep 2023 #12
He's one of many conservatives on TNYT editorial team. LonePirate Sep 2023 #13
I can summarize every Ross Douthat column ever written: Act_of_Reparation Sep 2023 #14
Never heard of him. Takket Sep 2023 #15
Don't read him. Opportunity cost alone -- what would I miss reading Hortensis Sep 2023 #16
The New Yorker used to be a fact checking absolutist publication. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #17
Ross who now? Xavier Breath Sep 2023 #19
What amazes me is that people acually make a living by being a wacko. walkingman Sep 2023 #21
Hated him from Day 1. Grins Sep 2023 #23
Douthat has never lived down that "chunky Reese Witherspoon" comment... keep_left Sep 2023 #24
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