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madamesilverspurs

(16,396 posts)
6. It's called inculcation.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:01 AM
Aug 2023

Way back in the early '50s we had to learn it in first grade. We had not one clue what the words meant. Ask any six-year-old today what the word 'pledge' means. Then 'allegiance'. Ask that child to explain 'united' and 'states' and 'nation' and 'republic'. How about 'indivisible'? Ask them to comment on the concepts of 'liberty and justice'. The only difference between then and now is the addition of 'under God' which caused many of us back then to giggle as we tripped over the newly inserted words. It was for us a collection of sounds accompanied by a gesture, no weightier than the rhymes we chanted while jumping rope.

In subsequent grades we were taught about the horrors of life in communist countries. In photos and film strips we saw pictures of school children who were required to recite words of loyalty while saluting in some fashion a flag or emblem or portrait. The message was clear: When we do it, it's good, when they do it, it's bad. Because we say so. Mindless repetition is just that -- mindless, especially when compelled.

Don't get me started on the faux patriotism of starting every public gathering with the national anthem.


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conceived to meet the needs of white male property owners nt msongs Aug 2023 #1
Can't be that honest. The US Constitution was actually a victory for the conservaturds at the time. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #2
On those rare occasions that I recite it, I say "one nation under LAW." lastlib Aug 2023 #3
Don't forget the Chin-knee and everyone that look like them. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #5
I replace god with dog. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #32
Order. czarjak Aug 2023 #4
It's called inculcation. madamesilverspurs Aug 2023 #6
You put those ideas in children because children don't have the ability to muster a defense AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #9
What a child hears: lastlib Aug 2023 #30
Good one! bif Aug 2023 #47
What my child really DID hear DFW Aug 2023 #56
That's hilarious! lastlib Aug 2023 #57
Small town America DFW Aug 2023 #59
LOL! lastlib Aug 2023 #60
I'm perfectly ok with it TexasDem69 Aug 2023 #7
Yep Zeitghost Aug 2023 #36
The ludicrous irony, is watching members of the political party sworn to uphold, but most attuned Uncle Joe Aug 2023 #8
I love when people tell me that flag and country are equal in the pledge. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #12
Putting the flag first (or in there at all, but especially first) has bugged me for a long time Silent3 Aug 2023 #10
We get it, you don't like it. William769 Aug 2023 #11
Never said it as a kid. hunter Aug 2023 #13
Hey, goes right along with the national anthem.. Permanut Aug 2023 #14
That's one of the best posts on the subject that I've ever read. Warpy Aug 2023 #15
I did not realize "under God" was added that recently. ShazzieB Aug 2023 #16
No, it was trumped up paranoia. Most people believe what communism says. It's those with AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #17
Paranoia is right. ShazzieB Aug 2023 #45
People were distrustful of governments long before the Pentagon Papers. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #61
The "pledge of allegiance" ? What is that?? DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #18
Arizona Republicans tried to make it a law requiring all people in schools to stay and say it. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #19
I resided in Arizona a couple of times, DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #20
curious how close the voting for that law was Dorian Gray Aug 2023 #26
It died in committee. But it was brought up. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #27
:thumbsup: Dorian Gray Aug 2023 #28
Well.... ShazzieB Aug 2023 #42
It's OK, I have no problem with it but whatever ... nt Raine Aug 2023 #21
The Pledge has no impact on my life whatsoever. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #22
I don't have a problem with the pledge. It's the GoodRaisin Aug 2023 #23
Words grown-ups don't have to say if they don't want to. betsuni Aug 2023 #24
Well, if you want to venture down the pedantry road ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #52
The good thing about the pledge Dorian Gray Aug 2023 #25
Winnie the Flu requires all students to attend mandatory flag raising and reciting of the AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #29
Who is Winnie the Flu? I am kinda sick of these nicknames obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #38
To each their own. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #31
Civilian life is different. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #33
I agree. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #34
I was in the AF, not the Marines, but did y'all have that hilarious daily BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #35
True dat. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #43
I noticed the officers ran first and fastest lol. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #46
The Pledge of Allegiance is like "I'm sorry for your loss." LAS14 Aug 2023 #37
Well said. nt BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #58
I agree. BigDemVoter Aug 2023 #39
And to the Republic of Richard Stands. milestogo Aug 2023 #40
Dick Stands is a very famous person. Just like Dick Head, Dick Wad, Dick Smack AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #41
And don't forget Dick Weed. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #44
And Dick Tater! bif Aug 2023 #48
See post #30 lastlib Aug 2023 #49
Yeah, its a little wonky, but no one has to say it so its a push. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #50
Fantastic! edisdead Aug 2023 #51
I like Jello Biafra's version better Tarc Aug 2023 #53
Gotta love the Dead Presidents AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #54
Your right to do so... But not the ideological hill I am going to die on JCMach1 Aug 2023 #55
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