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fishwax

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25. this is a good thing

Reply to cbabe (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2023, 06:06 PM

Jun 2023

A unanimous vote by democrats would serve no real purpose. But this deal doesn't happen without the threat of votes potentially splitting off from the democrats, and those threats are of course meaningless in the long run without the actuality of a few democrats not voting for the bill. Now Biden gets credit for crafting a bipartisan deal, McCarthy most likely gets to retain his tenuous hold over his caucus, and democrats keep a hamstrung leader of a fractured caucus in the speaker's chair.

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Here Are the Progressives Who Voted Against the GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Extortion Scheme' [View all] cbabe Jun 2023 OP

Dang it, Katy Porter??? a kennedy Jun 2023 #1

Yep. The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #9

Makes me like Katie & Barbara Lee more womanofthehills Jun 2023 #13

I'm wondering how their behavior would change in the senate -- Hortensis Jun 2023 #19

I don't like her vote, but I guarantee I would totally accept her well reasoned reason for voting no Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #17

A bunch of grandstanders. tritsofme Jun 2023 #2

Symbolic "NO" votes Red Pest Jun 2023 #3

I always view these "protest votes" as a profile in cowardice. tritsofme Jun 2023 #6

No, it's not. hippywife Jun 2023 #11

That sounds like the dictionary definition of cowardice. tritsofme Jun 2023 #12

They're not fucking grandstanding. hippywife Jun 2023 #23

Shame you didn't add me earlier! tritsofme Jun 2023 #24

in your own words stopdiggin Jun 2023 #14

It Seems You're Arguing Against Your Own Point ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #16

Why don't you show us how brave you are, and publicly identify yourself in a LTTE f_townsend Jun 2023 #26

lol, a letter to which editor? tritsofme Jun 2023 #27

Ok, then you can start here n/t f_townsend Jun 2023 #28

You can start by responding to what I've written. tritsofme Jun 2023 #29

This Kennah Jun 2023 #32

We should do an experiment- Snooper9 Jun 2023 #4

I think we already know what they will come up with. Progressive dog Jun 2023 #8

A wise Democrat once said, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #5

Really don't care much. maxsolomon Jun 2023 #7

They all knew this bill was going to pass. I appreciate their votes and their voices. Progressive KPN Jun 2023 #10

Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi was able to keep these grandstanders under control FakeNoose Jun 2023 #15

Curiously, one quarter of the no votes were from California Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #18

Tip O'Neil said edhopper Jun 2023 #20

Their vote was not needed so they had permission to vote as they did. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #21

Yes, that is what it boils down to. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #22

That is what I think! Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #31

this is a good thing fishwax Jun 2023 #25

I am fine with their votes mvd Jun 2023 #30