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hunter

(40,023 posts)
16. What is the answer?
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:30 PM
Mar 2023

California has many gigawatt scale solar, wind, and energy storage projects. You can take real world data from all of these projects to model any sort of renewable energy utopia you like. All you have to do is subtract out the fossil fuel inputs.

I've done this math right-side up, up-side down, and side-ways, and I can't make any of these utopian renewable energy fantasies work. I used to be an anti-nuclear activist but I'm not any more.

You can start your own explorations here:

http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.html

As I write this 33% of my electric power is coming from natural gas and my downstairs gas wall furnace is on, heating this room I'm in to a toasty 66 degrees Fahrenheit. The sun is not shining, the wind is not blowing.

About half the protein in the food I eat today will ultimately have been derived from natural gas, carbon dioxide dumped recklessly into the atmosphere.

I'm not driving anywhere today but I will tomorrow, to visit my elderly parents. Our little car, that consistently gets around 45 miles per gallon, will be spewing toxic chemicals and greenhouse gasses across California, a Fukishima accident in miniature.

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So these people prefer mountain top removals over wind power. . Emile Mar 2023 #1
As typical Republicans they only care what impacts their tiny minds. NIMBY (Not in my backyard) TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #2
Neither is what's on their minds tirebiter Mar 2023 #18
Further studies on wind farms or further studies on flying whales? nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2023 #3
The fossil fuel industry pushes this misinformation to stop Emile Mar 2023 #5
The coal industry rejects these. The natural gas industry does not. hunter Mar 2023 #9
Nuclear factories and plants are easy targets for terrorists. Emile Mar 2023 #10
If we don't quit fossil fuels earth's natural environment and our civilization are toast. hunter Mar 2023 #11
Totally agree, but nuclear is not the answer. Emile Mar 2023 #12
What is the answer? hunter Mar 2023 #16
Wrong - nuclear reactors have become very expensive to make & maintain womanofthehills Mar 2023 #15
The rich fossil fuel industry guys are the guys making the wind farms womanofthehills Mar 2023 #13
Around here it was the coal industry pushing the misinformation. Emile Mar 2023 #14
The childhood friends of mine Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #4
They'll never even catch up to the number of birds and animals killed by the Exxon Valdez spill Walleye Mar 2023 #6
i live a few miles from a beautiful wind farm and no dead whales here! samnsara Mar 2023 #7
I have a wind farm two miles north of my house. My r/w neighbor hates them Emile Mar 2023 #8
Aside from fossil fuels, agriculture is another wretched thing humans do. hunter Mar 2023 #17
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