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lees1975

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43. What Democrat would ever be allowed by the other side

Sat Feb 4, 2023, 11:32 AM

Feb 2023

to campaign for office after doing everything Trump has done and not have a thing done?

Why is convicted Steve Bannon still free to push his propaganda and lies?

Don't call anyone jumping on this a defeatist or a naysayer. This is just sheer observation. Trump was counting on not being indicted so he could announce his candidacy. If there's no indictment from the DOJ, the Democratic party will lose all credibility and everything Trump has done will just get labelled as exactly what some of the extremists say it is--a political attack. And a lot of votes will either not show up or go elsewhere.

Personally, I believe the time has come to replace the attorney general with someone who will do the job, not because they felt sorry for the guy when he didn't get a Supreme Court seat.

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My confidence that Merrick Garland will do the right thing is virtually zero [View all] Cyrano Feb 2023 OP

K&R onecaliberal Feb 2023 #1

There is an even chance the next President will be a Rethug edhopper Feb 2023 #2

I think it more than even. I will go with very probable. Autumn Feb 2023 #8

I think that there is a 20% chance that the Republican markodochartaigh Feb 2023 #112

Yep Cosmocat Feb 2023 #119

Indeed. Justice delayed will be NO justice at all. calimary Feb 2023 #134

Agreed. NewHendoLib Feb 2023 #3

What will happen is justice will be delayed until it is considered too close to the patricia92243 Feb 2023 #4

We're almost there. Campaign season has begun. Cyrano Feb 2023 #6

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perfect trifecta DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #59

Don't tell Enrique Tarrio this. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #94

"Your delay has let Trumpism spread like a cancer..." J_William_Ryan Feb 2023 #5

Yes, it's always been around in a less toxic form Cyrano Feb 2023 #11

Oh, I believe that indicting him on day one of Biden's presidency would have assured Firestorm49 Feb 2023 #13

On Day One? FelineOverlord Feb 2023 #18

Shh, they don't teach facts at the Veruca Salt School of Law AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #28

🤣 ShazzieB Feb 2023 #74

I could not respond to that post, it was so off the wall. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #32

Chris Wray, FBI Director, former Russian energy lawyer, could have arrested him on day one Ponietz Feb 2023 #55

No matter what the special counsel recommends, Garland makes the final decision whether to indict. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2023 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author agingdem Feb 2023 #130

Richard Nixon hatched the Southern Strategy Hekate Feb 2023 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author agingdem Feb 2023 #192

Oh dear. "States' rights" was the deepest Deep South white racist claim that I remember... Hekate Feb 2023 #195

I don't disagree with you except on one thing. PatrickforB Feb 2023 #174

It's an illogical point, anyway. Trumpism spread in 2016. Beautiful Disaster Feb 2023 #180

K&R off to greatest posts! Emile Feb 2023 #7

Indictments won't mean much unless they result in a conviction Jarqui Feb 2023 #9

I agree kooth Feb 2023 #204

Completely agree. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #10

After two long years clearly nothing will happen Emile Feb 2023 #12

Garland hasn't been in office two years FelineOverlord Feb 2023 #26

Oh well there you go, that explains why it is taking so long. Emile Feb 2023 #31

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Prominent posters here scoffed at alarm calls prior to January 6, 2021 Ponietz Feb 2023 #66

Your post is defeatism. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #14

Garland has no plans to indict. Period! Emile Feb 2023 #17

You do not seem to be able to comprehend this simple fact. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #30

When do think he will discover what the world witnessed Emile Feb 2023 #33

You have to win the case in a courtroom. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #38

So how much longer? Emile Feb 2023 #39

I've asked that poster that same question. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #49

Between tomorrow and never. Both extremes are equally ridiculous at this point. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #78

and it's still up to Garland. So when is he going to do something? Emile Feb 2023 #81

He has done something unprecedented already, and it is well documented. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #91

Last I heard Trump is still playing golf. Emile Feb 2023 #93

And? Does this erase Garland's entire record as AG? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #97

No, but looks like the big fish is still swimming in the sea. Emile Feb 2023 #99

And how does THAT erase Garland's past record of accomplishments? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #124

When dId I say his past record is erased? If these threads upset Emile Feb 2023 #125

Well, this is the first time you acknowledged it. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #129

We are not discussing Garlands past record, you are. Emile Feb 2023 #136

That's the point, isn't it? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #139

Its your point not mine. Emile Feb 2023 #143

You not discussing Garland's past record and only speculating on Garland's future investigations Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #151

That's it! And you are speculating that Garland is going Emile Feb 2023 #163

Wait a moment... Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #169

So do you think Garland will prosecute? Emile Feb 2023 #170

Yes. Because I have exceptionally well developed hindsight. He not only prosecuted Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #177

That's just it! ShazzieB Feb 2023 #181

+1 betsuni Feb 2023 #198

He turned the investigation of Trump over to Jack Smith in November 2022. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #205

I don't know if he has, or had, plans to indict. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #35

The Federal investigations will not finish before the next Presidential Election, if ever... Justice matters. Feb 2023 #83

" ordering his maga troops to storm the capital" brooklynite Feb 2023 #56

Just present the damn video. Emile Feb 2023 #58

...where he said they would walk to the Capitol and support the Republicans opposing the EV cert brooklynite Feb 2023 #63

What's the fee to join the Garland fan club? NewHendoLib Feb 2023 #34

off topic Grasswire2 Feb 2023 #135

It will be very poor optics to support any faith in the importance of judicial prudence..... jaxexpat Feb 2023 #88

👍 Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #102

I'm starting to wonder if Garland has been threatened himself/family and is afraid to tell the SheilaAnn Feb 2023 #15

"Is afraid to tell the authorities" brooklynite Feb 2023 #57

I wouldn't trust any of them. n/t SheilaAnn Feb 2023 #68

IOW Garland is both scared AND incompetent? brooklynite Feb 2023 #73

Don't put words in my mouth. Has he been threatened? You don't know and neither do I. n/t SheilaAnn Feb 2023 #77

But I'm not publicly "wondering" about it. brooklynite Feb 2023 #80

Of course he's been threatened iemanja Feb 2023 #104

I so llashram Feb 2023 #16

The wheels of justice run at the same speed that Trump pays bills. twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #19

And why do you choose to spread your defeatism here? How does tis help? nt pnwmom Feb 2023 #20

Who does it help? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #41

Spreading doom and gloom helps the other side. n/t pnwmom Feb 2023 #47

Looking at life through rose-colored glasses is also problematic. intheflow Feb 2023 #82

+1 Justice matters. Feb 2023 #95

I think that post encourages people to give up. I'm going to keep hoping and FIGHTING. nt pnwmom Feb 2023 #127

Fighting? progressoid Feb 2023 #186

Voting drives, letters to our Congress people, donations, etc. The bottom line pnwmom Feb 2023 #190

Does it help to continue supporting inaction? Magoo48 Feb 2023 #120

The rule of law is vastly more important than a jobs report Ponietz Feb 2023 #21

They are getting convictions for seditious conspiracy on those who claimed lees1975 Feb 2023 #22

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+1 Emile Feb 2023 #37

Two posts in and trashing the Biden Administration AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #42

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So you don't understand how the government works AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #64

Where was anything said about the Biden Administration? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #62

You don't understand how our government works either? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #67

And YOU must have forgotten choie Feb 2023 #71

Who selected him again? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #72

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Third time's a charm? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #154

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Good luck! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #156

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My fee fees are fine thank you AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #160

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Don't let the door hitya in the ass on your way out, latest-incarnation-of-sriten Hekate Feb 2023 #166

It's kinda cute in a pathetic sort of way AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #167

Well, the troll seems to be very effective in stirring up a lot of agreement on its behalf. SMH Hekate Feb 2023 #171

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Garland's taken 10 years? So you can't count either. AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #173

Oh my. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #101

That's all they got. Emile Feb 2023 #105

Thank you. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #109

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And gathering friends like mad Hekate Feb 2023 #188

Great post! Poiuyt Feb 2023 #48

Perhaps FelineOverlord Feb 2023 #24

The proof will be in the pudding. Sneederbunk Feb 2023 #25

Agree. There was a COUP attempt. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #27

Welcome to the Post-Fitzmas Club For People Who Say Mm-Hmm. Iggo Feb 2023 #29

Underrated yet spot-on post! intheflow Feb 2023 #85

this is false bigtree Feb 2023 #40

and Nixon was never charged. . . Justice Denied Emile Feb 2023 #44

Nixon resigned, and then Ford gave a him full pardon. End of story. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #76

Seriously, I just think using Nixon as an example is a piss Emile Feb 2023 #84

It wasn't ultimately the investigation that caused NIxon to resign . . . markpkessinger Feb 2023 #98

Ford gave a blanket pardon to Nixon because of his health. Autumn Feb 2023 #152

What Democrat would ever be allowed by the other side lees1975 Feb 2023 #43

Responsible opposing viewpoints are invited to request time to reply.... brooklynite Feb 2023 #45

some of what you say is true stopdiggin Feb 2023 #46

From the very beginning I never believed tRump would pay for his many crimes, not because of Garland yaesu Feb 2023 #50

Amen! blueinredohio Feb 2023 #61

" I expect to see Trump indicted by Georgia" brooklynite Feb 2023 #51

If he was indicted tomorrow Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #54

I've changed my opinion and now sadly agree with you -- still hoping we are wrong housecat Feb 2023 #60

What was it about February 4, 2023 that exhausted your patience? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #65

Amen Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #106

This entire shit show DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #69

Alice Rocks! old as dirt Feb 2023 #161

In the likelihood that you missed it, Garland is not running the Trump investigation show. ancianita Feb 2023 #70

"Garland will do whatever Jack Smith decides. Period." LudwigPastorius Feb 2023 #86

you are correct republianmushroom Feb 2023 #89

Smith makes a referral to Garland iemanja Feb 2023 #111

To that point - If that was the route he was going to go why wait a year and a half to appoint him? Cosmocat Feb 2023 #122

That's not how it works. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #144

That's exactly how it works. Smith is only #2 at the very end. Until then, he's Garland's substitute ancianita Feb 2023 #150

Not a day goes by that there isn't a talking head - with legal expertise or not - on the tube Vinca Feb 2023 #75

The Koch brothers have made an announcement that infers they won't Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #202

Nailed it republianmushroom Feb 2023 #79

👍 I said this months ago Duppers Feb 2023 #87

Your confidence seems to have difficulty catching up with reality. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #90

👍 Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #110

The point is -- it's TOO LATE. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #140

That wasn't the point of the OP Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #147

Why are my expectations impossible? BRAZIL took action after their coup attempt. Why didn't we? Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #164

We did. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #176

The Jan 6 committee turned over an abundance of evidence DeeDeeNY Feb 2023 #92

My gf calls him Meritless Garland and mchill Feb 2023 #96

Garland never used the term "imminent" Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #114

Did I say he did? mchill Feb 2023 #141

We shall see. Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #100

I've been critical of Garland, but I wouldn't go that far iemanja Feb 2023 #103

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"Too much caution turns into immunity." Adam Schiff. CrispyQ Feb 2023 #107

I don't know who the hell invented the Statute of Limitations but they're not JUSTICE. Justice matters. Feb 2023 #108

Statute TiberiusB Feb 2023 #142

Thank you. Justice matters. Feb 2023 #145

K&R CONN Feb 2023 #113

I have been vocal about my growing lack of faith in Garland. However, I am finding Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #115

I'm hoping they are working as fast as they can and doing their due diligence judesedit Feb 2023 #116

We will see but I tend to trust people who know AG Garland LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #117

Here is some facts. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #118

He looks and acts like a scared milquetoast. ananda Feb 2023 #121

he prosecuted Tim McVeigh bigtree Feb 2023 #175

Was Tin McVeigh a threatening poliktical figure... ananda Feb 2023 #184

So now he's not just not a Democrat AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #189

you called him milquetoast bigtree Feb 2023 #191

I'm with you. I have zero confidence in Garland. Paladin Feb 2023 #123

Post removed Post removed Feb 2023 #126

I like how you're channeling The Rock! Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #132

LOL! TY! Cha Feb 2023 #133

I never had faith in Garland. Texaswitchy Feb 2023 #128

I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing brachism Feb 2023 #131

K and R. Mosby Feb 2023 #137

When has he... FeelingBlue Feb 2023 #138

Agree 100% claudette Feb 2023 #146

I do not believe Trump will ever be incarcerated pecosbob Feb 2023 #157

Interesting. Makes me think ok, who has been jailed. Immediately thought Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #197

List of all politicians convicted of crimes. Not too many Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #199

As badly as I want him and a few others convicted of insurrection or Jan 6, I dont see an indictable Eliot Rosewater Feb 2023 #158

Without the 'Rule of Law', the gard rails come off of our form of government. What then? Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #162

I'm sure he's devastated that you don't have confidence in him. Beautiful Disaster Feb 2023 #178

White traitors get drawn out due process. usonian Feb 2023 #182

Who decides the timeline? treestar Feb 2023 #183

If the shoe were on the other foot, Biden would be convicted and in jail by now. Ligyron Feb 2023 #185

tell us how many court cases republicans have won in the past 6 years bigtree Feb 2023 #203

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Very well written and I agree! nightwing1240 Feb 2023 #194

Don't you think that DU " condemned Garland" is an exaggeration? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #196

I agree with Joy Behar: "I don't even care if he doesn't go to jail, I don't care!" betsuni Feb 2023 #200

It is up to Jack Smith. applegrove Feb 2023 #201

Would you like to revise and extend your remarks? brooklynite Jun 2023 #206