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In reply to the discussion: Mastodon.art just banned AI art [View all]highplainsdem
(58,476 posts)50. Oh, yes. The bucket into which non-art pretending to be art falls.
Not surprisingly, it has a lot of critics:
https://www.artdex.com/conceptual-art-difficult-understand/
Conceptual art or conceptualism is art that has moved beyond traditional aesthetics or even materials. Conceptual art has been widely criticized for being the bucket in which certain art falls into when no one can make sense of it. If it did not meet the standard genres or categories of art such as figurative, abstract, portrait or landscape etc. and presented particularly challenging interpretations, it conveniently fell into the realm of conceptualism.
Despite being dismissed as real art by many experts, conceptual artists claim that their art is based on the essence of art as an idea or concept, existing despite often the absence of a material presence. This angered many artists who felt that this then meant that anyone could deem themselves, artists. Throw a pile of rotting Autumn leaves in the gap between a burnt tire and give it a name and suddenly, it was art. Voila!
It appears that conceptual art rose as a form of rebellion by those who didnt want to be limited by the confines of contemporary art. Or perhaps, as some have suspected, conceptual art was intended to poke fun at the masses who were easily deceived when presented with a completely new concept that was so beyond description and understanding yet easily convinced it was art; reducing conceptualism to a social experiment.
However, conceptual art does have a rather strong following particularly for those that feel that art, conceptual or not, is meant to be philosophical. Art needs not be beautiful, fall into a category, follow a technique or even have a name! Art is an open-ended question and meant to make you feel something and simply communicate with us. So whether conceptualism is met with admiration, disdain, or confusion (often than not); its done its job as proper art to render a reaction from its audience.
Despite being dismissed as real art by many experts, conceptual artists claim that their art is based on the essence of art as an idea or concept, existing despite often the absence of a material presence. This angered many artists who felt that this then meant that anyone could deem themselves, artists. Throw a pile of rotting Autumn leaves in the gap between a burnt tire and give it a name and suddenly, it was art. Voila!
It appears that conceptual art rose as a form of rebellion by those who didnt want to be limited by the confines of contemporary art. Or perhaps, as some have suspected, conceptual art was intended to poke fun at the masses who were easily deceived when presented with a completely new concept that was so beyond description and understanding yet easily convinced it was art; reducing conceptualism to a social experiment.
However, conceptual art does have a rather strong following particularly for those that feel that art, conceptual or not, is meant to be philosophical. Art needs not be beautiful, fall into a category, follow a technique or even have a name! Art is an open-ended question and meant to make you feel something and simply communicate with us. So whether conceptualism is met with admiration, disdain, or confusion (often than not); its done its job as proper art to render a reaction from its audience.
See the messy unmade bed surrounded by clutter in the photo with that article, and think how lucky we are to have millions of conceptual artists who won't make their beds or get rid of clutter. What an artistic treasure!
By the standards of conceptual art, a baby throwing up is offering a serious artistic comment on life, the universe, the parents, or maybe just the most recent meal. Attach a pretentious label and presto! it's art. By those standards, the insurrectionists decorating the Capitol with their feces were also artists commenting on politics.
Such a wonderful thing, conceptual art.
And think how wonderfully thought-provoking unused spiral notebooks are! Monuments of emptiness inviting creations! An open unused notebook displayed in an art gallery should be worth 7 figures, don't you think? Such an amazing concept...emptiness enticing creation.
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"I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time"
blogslug
Jan 2023
#6
No, AI is like telling someone else to create a collage. It's fake creativity.
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#15
I'm confused. It isn't true, it has been going on for 500 years, and its really bad?
Voltaire2
Feb 2023
#30
It isn't true that "just about every major artist uses assistants" - which is what
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#33
There's not inherently wrong with AI, anymore than there is anything wrong with phone cameras.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2023
#18
None of the challenges you mention have been met, though, and so far there's been
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#22
We all drive cars that can go much faster than speed limits, but there are
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#24
This is just like what the music world said about sequencers and samplers in the 1980s
Recursion
Feb 2023
#41
There is little or no art in giving instructions to AI. You could take words
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#44
Whats that sentence that art-snobs say to people who question their own favored method of art?
Lancero
Feb 2023
#45
And you need to be skilled to spin the words to get the AI to output what you need...
Lancero
Feb 2023
#49