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highplainsdem

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46. AI will be making photographers, not just cameras, unnecessary.

Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:46 AM

Feb 2023

And art is NOT simply a vision or concept. If it was, every human being is an artist much of every day. Art is a vision PLUS skill PLUS work.

Using AI for art turns the skill and work part of that, plus much of the vision, over to software exploiting work done by human artists.

Some people using AI are already turning the basic concepts over to it. Asking it to generate entire plots and characters for novels based on a few guidelines, sometimes just the genre they want.

Do you call that creative writing?

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Mastodon.art just banned AI art [View all] highplainsdem Jan 2023 OP

I agree with this policy just because, I don't care about ai art. lindysalsagal Jan 2023 #1

Just because you don't want to see it means we should ban it? Polybius Feb 2023 #37

Sounds like a fair and sensible policy. dalton99a Jan 2023 #2

As an artist, I applaud this decision. FalloutShelter Jan 2023 #3

Best to be cautious I guess blogslug Jan 2023 #4

I saw that AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #5

"I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time" blogslug Jan 2023 #6

Well-played. TheProle Jan 2023 #9

For those who missed it... lol: demmiblue Jan 2023 #8

Hey! Ho! Let's Go Celerity Jan 2023 #7

All creepy to me except Brenda Feb 2023 #23

different cultural upbringings yield various takes on what is 'creepy' Celerity Feb 2023 #26

As a federation rather than a centralized system Voltaire2 Jan 2023 #10

DALL-E would be like photography only if you could get a photograph highplainsdem Jan 2023 #11

every creative human is working off the efforts of other humans Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #12

No, AI is like telling someone else to create a collage. It's fake creativity. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #15

Ok then just about every major artist uses assistants. Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #20

That isn't true, and the use of assistants to do the work while highplainsdem Feb 2023 #21

I'm confused. It isn't true, it has been going on for 500 years, and its really bad? Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Feb 2023 #31

It isn't true that "just about every major artist uses assistants" - which is what highplainsdem Feb 2023 #33

Yeah I read about how Hockney is f'ing pissed off Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #35

There's nothing on that page or the one it links to referring highplainsdem Feb 2023 #36

I agree wholeheartedly Mossfern Feb 2023 #38

It's like more telling someone take a photograph via text message. tinrobot Feb 2023 #13

I hope to see that genie slammed back into the bottle forever highplainsdem Feb 2023 #16

The same thing happened with computers and music sampling. tinrobot Feb 2023 #17

There's not inherently wrong with AI, anymore than there is anything wrong with phone cameras. Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #18

None of the challenges you mention have been met, though, and so far there's been highplainsdem Feb 2023 #22

Your focus wasn't on the issues of licensing and plagiarizing. Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #27

AI is not like a camera. AI produces writing, images and highplainsdem Feb 2023 #28

Ripping off human work is a legal problem. Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #29

The best way to teach writing is via reading and writing, not by having highplainsdem Feb 2023 #34

You can't put this genie back in the bottle. Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #19

We all drive cars that can go much faster than speed limits, but there are highplainsdem Feb 2023 #24

I'm sure there will be regulations regarding AI. Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #25

Not getting it 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2023 #14

It is the conception, not the composition that is art. speak easy Feb 2023 #32

In that case Mossfern Feb 2023 #39

? speak easy Feb 2023 #40

Conceptual art Mossfern Feb 2023 #43

dalle literally requires a statement to generate an image from. Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #48

I'm curious Mossfern Feb 2023 #53

... speak easy Feb 2023 #54

This is just like what the music world said about sequencers and samplers in the 1980s Recursion Feb 2023 #41

"Photography is evil, won't someone think of the poor portait artists!" Lancero Feb 2023 #42

There is little or no art in giving instructions to AI. You could take words highplainsdem Feb 2023 #44

Whats that sentence that art-snobs say to people who question their own favored method of art? Lancero Feb 2023 #45

AI will be making photographers, not just cameras, unnecessary. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #46

And you need to be skilled to spin the words to get the AI to output what you need... Lancero Feb 2023 #49

Unless you are doing something like telling AI to generate a picture by highplainsdem Feb 2023 #51

It's a form of art, and it's one that multi-billion dollar companies want a slice of. Lancero Feb 2023 #52

see: conceptual art. Been around since the 60s. Voltaire2 Feb 2023 #47

Oh, yes. The bucket into which non-art pretending to be art falls. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #50