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In reply to the discussion: Mastodon.art just banned AI art [View all]highplainsdem
(58,440 posts)36. There's nothing on that page or the one it links to referring
to "all the famous artists" using assistants to do the work while taking full credit. Those are your words.
Hockney was talking about one artist, Damien Hirst.
The linked article at https://twocoatsofpaint.com/2012/01/quick-read-damien-hirst-edition.html has this comment, which IMO nails it:
Mr. Hirst's work is kind of like watching commercials. I don't feel the power of who made the piece; his self-admitted lack of interaction with his work leaves me flat. But, when he asks millions for work he may not have even touched himself, in my mind it becomes an issue of professional integrity.
I feel he gives abstract and conceptual artists a bad name, and I am appalled that I cannot look at any work with his name on it without feeling it is cheapened. Fortunately, I can mostly avoid that.
I feel he gives abstract and conceptual artists a bad name, and I am appalled that I cannot look at any work with his name on it without feeling it is cheapened. Fortunately, I can mostly avoid that.
And that article links to this one - https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2012/jan/03/david-hockney-damien-hirst-rival-exhibitions - which probably explains why Hirst has others create for him:
When Hirst has picked up his own paintbrush, the results have not been universally admired. An exhibition at the Wallace Collection in London of paintings inspired by Francis Bacon was hammered by the critics, including the Guardian's Adrian Searle, who called his work "amateurish and adolescent". The pieces will not feature in Hirst's Tate show.
My impression is that the people most interested in using ChatGPT to "create" will be people with little or no talent who want to claim to be creative. And perhaps a few who could actually write something decent or create some worthwhile piece of art or music themselves, but don't want to put the time and effort into it, especially if they can con anyone into believing that it's really creative to just give instructions to software, and that the AI isn't unethically using real artists' work.
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"I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time"
blogslug
Jan 2023
#6
No, AI is like telling someone else to create a collage. It's fake creativity.
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#15
I'm confused. It isn't true, it has been going on for 500 years, and its really bad?
Voltaire2
Feb 2023
#30
It isn't true that "just about every major artist uses assistants" - which is what
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#33
There's not inherently wrong with AI, anymore than there is anything wrong with phone cameras.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2023
#18
None of the challenges you mention have been met, though, and so far there's been
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#22
We all drive cars that can go much faster than speed limits, but there are
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#24
This is just like what the music world said about sequencers and samplers in the 1980s
Recursion
Feb 2023
#41
There is little or no art in giving instructions to AI. You could take words
highplainsdem
Feb 2023
#44
Whats that sentence that art-snobs say to people who question their own favored method of art?
Lancero
Feb 2023
#45
And you need to be skilled to spin the words to get the AI to output what you need...
Lancero
Feb 2023
#49