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24. It was an idiotic lie then, and it is an idiotic lie now. And Truman called it out.

Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:57 PM

Jan 2023

"All of you, I am sure, have heard many cries about Government interference with business and about "creeping socialism." I should like to remind the gentlemen who make these complaints that if events had been allowed to continue as they were going prior to March 4, 1933, most of them would have no businesses left for the Government or for anyone else to interfere with - and almost surely we would have socialism in this country, real socialism."

Harry S Truman

Truman knew that the New Deal helped save this country from a very bad fate.

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Retired Air Force guy buries MAGAt in facts and it's a lovely thing to see. [View all] CousinIT Jan 2023 OP

This is something we can all do peggysue2 Jan 2023 #1

over and over and over again housecat Jan 2023 #22

The VA is NOT an example of "socialism," and feeding the right-wing trope is stupid. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #2

Well, without "socialist" taxes, there wouldn't even be an Air Force. Justice matters. Jan 2023 #19

"Taxes" are not an example of socialism either. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #20

Agreed, but they associate them with the Boston Tea Party Justice matters. Jan 2023 #21

Another good reason not to allow "them" to paint false narratives. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #23

Sure it is. And so are public libraries, police, fire departments, roads, and public schools. pnwmom Jan 2023 #26

No. That's dead wrong. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #27

A short primer on socialism, from the Brookings Institution. pnwmom Jan 2023 #29

Articles that claim that socialism "is now seen in light of the achievements Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #32

One of the original definitions of socialism is when "Society as a whole undertakes the.... EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #30

No, it is not. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #31

Yes, it is, "one of the original definitions of socialism" like I said. Right-wingers want people to EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #33

I'm not buying what you seem to be selling. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #34

Thank you for being civil as we disagree. Disagreement are inevitable when one debates.... EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #35

When accepted definitions for political terms which describe political ideologies are replaced with Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #36

Those position papers that I mentioned do provide definitions that differentiate between..... EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #38

It's difficult to have a serious discussion HuskyOffset Jan 2023 #49

The same way political scientists have defined socialism for generations. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #50

Most exxcellent! malaise Jan 2023 #3

About 30/40 years back KS Toronado Jan 2023 #4

As long as Big Business controls most of Big Media, that would be quite an uphill climb peppertree Jan 2023 #8

I agree 100% KS Toronado Jan 2023 #9

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I hope you're right peppertree Jan 2023 #12

You might be on to something there KS Toronado Jan 2023 #13

From your keyboards to God's ear. peppertree Jan 2023 #18

They've been doing it for a lot longer than that. progressoid Jan 2023 #16

WOW, thanks for the education, getting forgetful in my old age KS Toronado Jan 2023 #17

It was an idiotic lie then, and it is an idiotic lie now. And Truman called it out. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #24

See #46 below. They've been doing it since the word "socialism" was coined JHB Jan 2023 #48

Some people seem to be missing the fact that Truman was skewing the mendacity of Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #37

Truman said that in 1952, so it's been... Septua Jan 2023 #40

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The thing that changed back then was the collapse of the obvious counterexample JHB Jan 2023 #46

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TY & Ret Col John Allen! Cha Jan 2023 #14

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