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In reply to the discussion: "Spare" beats the press at its own game: excellent review of the book & US culture... [View all]pnwmom
(110,106 posts)148. The Royal Family IS celebrity -- by birth, not by any achievement of their own.
Last edited Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:27 PM - Edit history (8)
And I do understand what narcissism is. But maybe you don't, if you don't understand how growing up in the narcissistic Monarchy is like growing up with a narcissistic parent.
How the Monarchy is a narcissistic system:
Grandiosity -- check!
The Royals believe themselves to be superior to everyone else. Inferiors -- which includes all UK citizens, including the Prime Minister -- are expected to bow or curtsy to them.
Link to tweet
Lack of empathy -- check!
Two hours after learning of their mother's death, the young princes were made to attend Mass -- where no one acknowledged that their mother had died, by order of the Queen.
The Royals require their children to perform on command -- check!
Days later, after their mother's funeral, when they were still reeling, the young princes were expected to smile at the crowds who waited along the road, to shake the onlookers' hands and and to comfort THEM.
The Royals have a most favored child. Check!
The Royals favor one child -- the Heir to the Throne. They not only have a favored child, they formally RANK all their children, from #1 on down the line. When a new child is born, that child is automatically ranked lower than his older siblings(s) - but if he's the son of a King, or a future king, then that baby automatically ranks higher than the King's own second child.
(Within a heavily narcissistic family system this all makes sense.)
The Royals refuse to accept a child's charting their own path -- check!
When Harry moved to Canada, thinking he could work from another part of the Commonwealth, he was told that if he didn't return, all financial support would be cut off, including funds needed for his security.
The Royals expect all family members to reflect well on the Monarchy -- image is everything! Check!
The Royal Family has its own press office (communications office) specifically designated to manage their image in the media. How many non-narcissistic families have that?
And, yes, there is a thing as healthy narcissism. It's the difference between a parent telling their child that, if they worked hard, they might be able to be President some day -- versus a parent telling a child: you were born a Prince, and your father is the King, and someday you'll be King. (Or: Someday your brother will be King, because he was first born. Your only job is to support him and the monarchy for the rest of your life.)
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"Spare" beats the press at its own game: excellent review of the book & US culture... [View all]
Hekate
Jan 2023
OP
I watched the interview just now. He's a very impressive, articulate and witty young man.
NNadir
Jan 2023
#121
I don't remember the expression he used last night to refer to their gilded cage.
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#32
There's a video of him exiting a car and making a mad dash to the theater for Colbert's show.
gldstwmn
Jan 2023
#118
Yeah, fuck that guy. He should have gone to prison for shooting those hen harriers.
Coventina
Jan 2023
#7
That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel, to attack him for possibly shooting the wrong bird
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#77
i'm kinda shocked anyone can tell a prince what they can shoot on a royal estate.
mopinko
Jan 2023
#122
How did you feel about Prince Charles attacking his family in his official biography
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#87
He didn't say his family was racist. He said a family member had questioned them
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#91
Wow. Polar opposite of my informed impression of Prince Harry. Good to hear a different perspective.
keopeli
Jan 2023
#35
LOL. William is the one who looks like Charles, and Harry resembles his mother more.
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#40
Good to know you read the book all the way thru & didn't skip around like some people...
Hekate
Jan 2023
#48
Breaking News - Prince Harry says he wants his father and brother 'back'
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 2023
#86
Not at all, but people are making this into some kind of moral stand for truth.
SYFROYH
Jan 2023
#21
I have no idea. But I don't recall people treating him like a saint for telling his side...
SYFROYH
Jan 2023
#126
You implied that he only did it for the money. After living 38 years in a fishbowl,
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#134
He's donating to his charity for African children affected by HIV and will make more donations:
betsuni
Jan 2023
#140
I keep seeing them as human beings. I've never envied their status; it comes with heavy baggage
Hekate
Jan 2023
#19
Then spare your tender sensibilities & learn to use Ignore & Trash Thread. Put me on Ignore...
Hekate
Jan 2023
#92
Completely sensible suggestion. Learning how to use the trash tool is basic!
Judi Lynn
Jan 2023
#149
I just downloaded Spare to my Kindle, Good timing as I just finished Matthew Perry's memoir last
liberal_mama
Jan 2023
#36
People forget. Or else they somehow think it was just fine for Prince Charles to discuss
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#68
You've got it backwards. Most Americans, including me, don't worship Harry and Meghan.
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#142
The Royal Family IS celebrity -- by birth, not by any achievement of their own.
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#148
You expect me to remember your previous posts. Sorry, you're not that important.
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#159
What does anyone's politics have to do with whether or not they like them?
Sympthsical
Jan 2023
#143
Then they should make it clear, whenever they're criticizing the two celebrities,
pnwmom
Jan 2023
#169
I'm sure his position has provided many things the average person will never experience
Jarqui
Jan 2023
#64
"it is the capstone of a personal disclosure campaign that puts Lena Dunham to shame." NO.
betsuni
Jan 2023
#71
Wishing to be a tampon is definitely more Lena Dunham-type personal disclosure.
betsuni
Jan 2023
#74
Like the majority of DU'ers, I don't know Harry, Meghan or any other member of the monarchy
usajumpedtheshark
Jan 2023
#166