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Hortensis

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38. For the most part those who see people as people?

Wed Jan 11, 2023, 05:12 PM

Jan 2023

That they're "royal family" is why I've heard of them. It's not why, when I become aware of the pain of tragic family estrangement, I wish better for them. I'd feel the same if they were neighbors I barely knew.

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"Spare" beats the press at its own game: excellent review of the book & US culture... [View all] Hekate Jan 2023 OP

he was very good on colbert. i found it instructive mopinko Jan 2023 #1

I don't know that any hard-core monarchy-haters will change their minds... Hekate Jan 2023 #5

well, i sorta am, and this sure doesnt help. mopinko Jan 2023 #18

I hate the institution of Noble privilege and Royalty IbogaProject Jan 2023 #46

Well said. I'm with you. Trailrider1951 Jan 2023 #116

I watched the interview just now. He's a very impressive, articulate and witty young man. NNadir Jan 2023 #121

I'm looking forward to reading Spare. beaglelover Jan 2023 #2

Some people say Prince Harry has so many privileges... BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #3

EXACTLY. pnwmom Jan 2023 #30

I have the audio book and began listening yesterday CatWoman Jan 2023 #31

I don't remember the expression he used last night to refer to their gilded cage. pnwmom Jan 2023 #32

Mahalo for that, Cat.. that's Cha Jan 2023 #56

and on top of that, cab67 Jan 2023 #37

There's a video of him exiting a car and making a mad dash to the theater for Colbert's show. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #118

It is very sad Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #4

Yeah, fuck that guy. He should have gone to prison for shooting those hen harriers. Coventina Jan 2023 #7

What? Demovictory9 Jan 2023 #9

When he was 23, he (or his companion) killed two extremely rare Coventina Jan 2023 #12

Ugh. 😵 Demovictory9 Jan 2023 #16

That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel, to attack him for possibly shooting the wrong bird pnwmom Jan 2023 #77

i'm kinda shocked anyone can tell a prince what they can shoot on a royal estate. mopinko Jan 2023 #122

Many People Evolve from what Cha Jan 2023 #80

And the police couldn't find any evidence that a crime had even been committed, pnwmom Jan 2023 #93

Yes, I read you post later.. Cha Jan 2023 #96

I detect inthewind21 Jan 2023 #8

I don't know what that was but Cha Jan 2023 #13

+1 BuddhaGirl Jan 2023 #47

Wow. You disagree with me Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #54

LOL BuddhaGirl Jan 2023 #78

I do offer...you ignore. Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #82

How did you feel about Prince Charles attacking his family in his official biography pnwmom Jan 2023 #87

I think it is disgusting. Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #90

He didn't say his family was racist. He said a family member had questioned them pnwmom Jan 2023 #91

Thanks pnwmom, you beat me to it CatWoman Jan 2023 #103

Yea can you share with us how you got this information? Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #15

Oh gawd.. that sounds like Cha Jan 2023 #20

Exactly. Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #23

"Oh gawd" Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #24

British Tabloid "facts". Cha Jan 2023 #25

Well, you can look at the facts as well Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #26

I don't care that they criticized their families Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #97

Anderson Cooper interview. mgardener Jan 2023 #39

IKR? sheshe2 Jan 2023 #55

Yes, Harry looks more like his Mum.. Cha Jan 2023 #81

Great article, Cha. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #95

I just don't understand how Cha Jan 2023 #98

Kelly Anne Conway's Book of Alternate Facts Hekate Jan 2023 #112

your many posts reqarding Harry have no basis in fact CatWoman Jan 2023 #33

+1 sheshe2 Jan 2023 #57

Thank You! Cha Jan 2023 #60

Wow. Polar opposite of my informed impression of Prince Harry. Good to hear a different perspective. keopeli Jan 2023 #35

LOL. William is the one who looks like Charles, and Harry resembles his mother more. pnwmom Jan 2023 #40

Harry looks like the Spencers mixed with Prince Philip obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #45

Good to know you read the book all the way thru & didn't skip around like some people... Hekate Jan 2023 #48

yeah CatWoman Jan 2023 #52

I've heard that the family member he really resembles most was Philip. milestogo Jan 2023 #106

.... CatWoman Jan 2023 #110

Very close resemblance. milestogo Jan 2023 #114

I think this post is awful.n/t MicaelS Jan 2023 #49

FINALLY someone on DU gets it. NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2023 #59

Is that you edhopper Jan 2023 #61

This sheshe2 Jan 2023 #62

No Ed Evergreen Emerald Jan 2023 #83

You've swallowed the UK and Murdoch smears. nt pnwmom Jan 2023 #123

Breaking News - Prince Harry says he wants his father and brother 'back' LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #86

Let's be clear. Harry wrote the book to get paid. Some say $20 Million. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #6

Somehow that doesn't strike me as a hanging offense Hekate Jan 2023 #10

Not at all, but people are making this into some kind of moral stand for truth. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #21

I think he wanted to put it all out there to set the record straight. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #119

Nah.. not "clear" Cha Jan 2023 #14

What's not clear about it, Cha? Violet_Crumble Jan 2023 #137

So what if he made money. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #63

The OP discusses possible motives for Harry writing the book. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #107

My comment stands. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #108

"If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too." Like that? betsuni Jan 2023 #113

Well, no, because one ackowledged their $$ motives, and another... SYFROYH Jan 2023 #120

Did Prince Charles acknowledge his financial motives in the 90's, pnwmom Jan 2023 #125

I have no idea. But I don't recall people treating him like a saint for telling his side... SYFROYH Jan 2023 #126

No one's treating Harry like a saint. But lots of people felt sorry for Diana pnwmom Jan 2023 #127

How many of us have to pay for lifetime security personnel? pnwmom Jan 2023 #124

Well....shit Tree-Hugger Jan 2023 #65

Along with the prestige, the Royal Family are in it for the money. pnwmom Jan 2023 #132

Of course. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #133

You implied that he only did it for the money. After living 38 years in a fishbowl, pnwmom Jan 2023 #134

Well, there was no requirement that his story be told in a for-profit book. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #135

It would have been just as damning toward the UK media and pnwmom Jan 2023 #136

He's donating to his charity for African children affected by HIV and will make more donations: betsuni Jan 2023 #140

Mahalo for this, Hekate.. I wish Cha Jan 2023 #11

Me too. Demovictory9 Jan 2023 #17

I keep seeing them as human beings. I've never envied their status; it comes with heavy baggage Hekate Jan 2023 #19

Amazing the twists and turns in Cha Jan 2023 #22

Yes, Colonial America was full of 2nd and 3rd and 4th sons, who had no place pnwmom Jan 2023 #41

I've been dodging around this thread but something you posted BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #131

Me too. It's clear to me that the seniors in "the institution" Ilsa Jan 2023 #28

It's Unbelievable.. but it Cha Jan 2023 #53

Same here, and for the others, wishing the families united someday. Hortensis Jan 2023 #34

Who gives a flying fuck? AnrothElf Jan 2023 #27

For the most part those who see people as people? Hortensis Jan 2023 #38

Not me. I didn't care when Michael Jackson died AnrothElf Jan 2023 #50

Well, I also don't have deep-seated antagonism for people Hortensis Jan 2023 #75

Well, I also don't have deep-seated antagonism for people Hortensis Jan 2023 #76

Why the need to be so hostile to posters? obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #152

I do. Lunabell Jan 2023 #42

I do. MicaelS Jan 2023 #43

Because it's obnoxious as fuck. AnrothElf Jan 2023 #51

Then spare your tender sensibilities & learn to use Ignore & Trash Thread. Put me on Ignore... Hekate Jan 2023 #92

Completely sensible suggestion. Learning how to use the trash tool is basic! Judi Lynn Jan 2023 #149

You are more than welcome Hekate Jan 2023 #151

Jesus, calm the fuck down obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #153

I can't wait to read it. LittleGirl Jan 2023 #29

Agree. Wish them all the best. And very sorry for your loss. Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #165

I too lost a parent when I was a teenager. CottonBear Jan 2023 #167

I just downloaded Spare to my Kindle, Good timing as I just finished Matthew Perry's memoir last liberal_mama Jan 2023 #36

He is MOMFUDSKI Jan 2023 #44

For those who are horrified that Harry chose to go public with all this, pnwmom Jan 2023 #58

Holy shit! sheshe2 Jan 2023 #66

People forget. Or else they somehow think it was just fine for Prince Charles to discuss pnwmom Jan 2023 #68

Omg.. I didn't even know that.. Cha Jan 2023 #79

Good points! BuddhaGirl Jan 2023 #84

let me guess Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #100

YES. But what I don't get pnwmom Jan 2023 #102

I don't get why anybody has to make him Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #105

Yes, folks are pretty hostile to both of them obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #154

What are you struggling with? Let this not-a-progressive assist... Violet_Crumble Jan 2023 #138

You've got it backwards. Most Americans, including me, don't worship Harry and Meghan. pnwmom Jan 2023 #142

No, I don't have it backwards at all Violet_Crumble Jan 2023 #145

The Royal Family IS celebrity -- by birth, not by any achievement of their own. pnwmom Jan 2023 #148

Great reply obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #155

'Why hasn't Harry given up his ridiculous title yet?' Violet_Crumble Jan 2023 #147

This post gets at something that's kind of true Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #161

I have a theory. betsuni Jan 2023 #141

This is a very, very right-wing point of view Sympthsical Jan 2023 #144

How? betsuni Jan 2023 #146

LOL. You've just stated that Betsuni's theory is very, very right-wing. pnwmom Jan 2023 #157

Being dishonest about my position once happens. Sympthsical Jan 2023 #158

You expect me to remember your previous posts. Sorry, you're not that important. pnwmom Jan 2023 #159

Really, how is it very, very right-wing? What is laid out there? betsuni Jan 2023 #163

I think your interesting theory is valid, especially as regards America... Hekate Jan 2023 #171

What does anyone's politics have to do with whether or not they like them? Sympthsical Jan 2023 #143

Maybe you've forgotten the Declaration of Independence. pnwmom Jan 2023 #160

I think what is frustrating some people in this thread Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #162

Then they should make it clear, whenever they're criticizing the two celebrities, pnwmom Jan 2023 #169

I'm sure his position has provided many things the average person will never experience Jarqui Jan 2023 #64

The thing is, though, that there are progressives here who have been arguing pnwmom Jan 2023 #70

The British Monarchy is a relic Jarqui Jan 2023 #72

The monarchy is stupid Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #101

+1 SunSeeker Feb 2023 #174

Thanks, Hekate. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #67

Glad he got it off his chest. Xolodno Jan 2023 #69

He's donated $1.5 million to an AIDS charity already. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 2023 #128

+1 betsuni Jan 2023 #130

"it is the capstone of a personal disclosure campaign that puts Lena Dunham to shame." NO. betsuni Jan 2023 #71

IMHO, the official 1995 biography of Prince Charles -- where he complained pnwmom Jan 2023 #73

Wishing to be a tampon is definitely more Lena Dunham-type personal disclosure. betsuni Jan 2023 #74

LOL, I didn't even know who Lena Dunham was. That's awful. Hekate Jan 2023 #111

These sales make me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #85

Yes! betsuni Jan 2023 #88

was watching some youtube clips last night of australian and british tv CatWoman Jan 2023 #89

One more proof of their willingness to gaslight the British public. pnwmom Jan 2023 #94

TY! I just searched why it's called Cha Jan 2023 #104

What are we proving that Harry is saying about us? Violet_Crumble Jan 2023 #139

I was referring to the press in general CatWoman Jan 2023 #150

TY, LMPV! I'm happy for them!💙 Cha Jan 2023 #99

I'm a third through with Audible version. tavernier Jan 2023 #109

I think Harry has the guts to take on the Tabloids.. Peacetrain Jan 2023 #115

Exactly, seeing how paedophile Prince Andrew HipChick Jan 2023 #156

It's clear to me that the media and paps would like nothing better than gldstwmn Jan 2023 #117

❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 2023 #129

Thanks for this Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #164

Like the majority of DU'ers, I don't know Harry, Meghan or any other member of the monarchy usajumpedtheshark Jan 2023 #166

What you say supports many of the points made by the author of the article in the OP... Hekate Jan 2023 #172

There may be another book LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #168

Harry and Meghan's behavior strikes me as a little peculiar. Jedi Guy Jan 2023 #170

I'll never understand the hatred for Harry and Meghan. SunSeeker Feb 2023 #173