Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Silent3

(15,909 posts) Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:07 PM Jan 2023

Isn't McCarthy pretty safe from a motion to vacate unless Dems vote to remove him too? [View all]

Considering 90% of Republicans were with McCarthy all along without a struggle, I doubt many Republicans would join in to oust him just because he does something "outrageous" (in the minds of the Chaos Caucus) like allowing the debt ceiling to be raised with the help of Democrats.

I don't see anything Democrats would have to gain by joining in with the temper tantrum brigade, unless a real possibility for a more moderate, less compromised Speaker existed.

218 votes are needed to oust the Speaker. I'm now thinking McCarthy's position is a lot more secure than I'd been imagining before. Am I missing something?

14 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Isn't McCarthy pretty safe from a motion to vacate unless Dems vote to remove him too? [View all] Silent3 Jan 2023 OP

He needs a majority, so 212 Dems and 6 GOOPers, but is the replacement better? Kennah Jan 2023 #1

I doubt 212 dems would vote to oust McCarthy, or even 12, UNLESS a better replacement... Silent3 Jan 2023 #3

You are correct. It will serve as a filibuster. It will waste time. Kennah Jan 2023 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #8

His long term survival is getting Hakeem to support him. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2023 #2

And Hakeem won't support Kevin if Kevin is ready to burn the country down... Silent3 Jan 2023 #5

The new rule can be used to halt action over and over. brush Jan 2023 #4

💯 Our party can use this rule to our benefit. The Repulsive party should MerryBlooms Jan 2023 #7

My thinking too. brush Jan 2023 #10

The motion to vacate is "privileged", yes, but I don't think it supercedes all activity Silent3 Jan 2023 #9

There are over 430 reps, each one can do it whenever they want... brush Jan 2023 #11

I'd be scared shitless of the Democratic Caucus if i was Kevin. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2023 #12

Democrats can vote No and likely sink him or we can vote "present" Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #13

The only thing this seems to do in my eyes is more quickly replace him if balance of power shifts ColinC Jan 2023 #14