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Bettie

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63. Would there have been more in the bill if she had voted Yes?

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:02 AM

Dec 2022

Or would the PASSED bill be exactly the same as it is now?

Also, why do people always get angry at her, but never at the conservative Dems (who are "voting for their purple district&quot , or even at the dickhead Republicans who won't vote for anything that helps anyone?

Again, how was the bill changed by her vote? Answer: It wasn't.

ob·struc·tion·ism
noun

The practice of deliberately impeding or delaying the course of legal, legislative, or other procedures.

Nothing was impeded or delayed. It passed.

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There was only one Democrat to vote against the spending package [View all] JohnSJ Dec 2022 OP

Well, at least it wasn't my congresswoman this time. iemanja Dec 2022 #1

So what? qazplm135 Dec 2022 #2

It matters. Making excuses that it doesn't matter, doesn't cut it JohnSJ Dec 2022 #3

A bit more explanation is in order dpibel Dec 2022 #11

The same can be true for some of Manchin's Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #45

Really, now? dpibel Dec 2022 #56

Manchin has actually shut down qazplm135 Dec 2022 #62

It might matter to you, but it didn't matter to the outcome of the bill. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #13

It never mattered when Sinema and Manchin voted no. They were votes that ended some important Autumn Dec 2022 #33

what do you mean it "never mattered"? Takket Dec 2022 #40

One of many excuses was that they had to vote no because of their conservative constituents. Autumn Dec 2022 #41

Voting for liberal constituents is less important, apparently Bettie Dec 2022 #53

That is not true. People bitch about Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #46

It certainly is true. Some of the same people "bitching" about this never complained when they did. Autumn Dec 2022 #47

Matters how? qazplm135 Dec 2022 #61

I agree SCantiGOP Dec 2022 #5

Was it a good thing with this bill? Dorian Gray Dec 2022 #25

Words mean things. Maybe look up obstructionist. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2022 #39

:) Oppositionalist? It's key to realize that Hortensis Dec 2022 #48

Being anti-establishment and establishment at the same time always seems to me betsuni Dec 2022 #59

Would there have been more in the bill if she had voted Yes? Bettie Dec 2022 #63

Maybe she voted because the bill changed the age when participants in 401(k)s can in2herbs Dec 2022 #42

How so? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #68

+1 spot on! Emile Dec 2022 #28

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #51

It matters in principle to her constituents and that's who she works for Deuxcents Dec 2022 #4

Right elleng Dec 2022 #6

+1 H2O Man Dec 2022 #7

Not sure about that. JohnSJ Dec 2022 #8

Yes, I'd like more information about this. betsuni Dec 2022 #15

Get her headlines, doesn't it? question everything Dec 2022 #9

That's what claudette Dec 2022 #18

Yup! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #21

AOC is my kind of politician - the defense bill is ridiculious and at some point we have walkingman Dec 2022 #10

I'm OK with that- her opposition wasn't a bill killer. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #12

She's right now much more bloated can we make the military industrial complex spending budget Woodswalker Dec 2022 #14

AOC: "After selecting 15 projects, we brought these projects to D.C. to lobby for the support betsuni Dec 2022 #16

Not too fond claudette Dec 2022 #17

How many potholes can we fill or snowstorms and forest fires... TreasonousBastard Dec 2022 #19

How many can we fix with the 770 billion we got bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #22

All of them but they won't get 770 billion to fix the potholes. The money will thrown away on the Autumn Dec 2022 #31

770plus was for social programs, 800 plus was for DOD. bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #35

As I said 770 billion is not going to fix potholes. The $858 billion going to the DOD is obscene. Autumn Dec 2022 #36

Like many republicans do, AOC will soon be taking credit for bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #20

Yes. betsuni Dec 2022 #23

+++ JohnSJ Dec 2022 #24

:) SOP -- claim to OWN Democratic values and achievements Hortensis Dec 2022 #50

+1 sheshe2 Dec 2022 #60

I don't care. demmiblue Dec 2022 #26

Thanks for kicking the thread Cha Dec 2022 #43

I wonder how she thinks the process of admitting people to the country can be accomplished Vinca Dec 2022 #27

Footage of Border Patrol Vandalism of Humanitarian Aid, 2010-2017 old as dirt Dec 2022 #29

As long as she never tries to claim credit for keeping the government open onenote Dec 2022 #30

She voted against it, then went on instagram bragging about things in the bill for her district JohnSJ Dec 2022 #34

Her requests included in the bill. All very important to her yet voted against bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #37

Thanks. Yes, she voted against her own earmarks in the bill JohnSJ Dec 2022 #38

That's the problem.. voting Cha Dec 2022 #44

She who wants attention +++ JohnSJ Dec 2022 #49

Lol, people whose reason for political existence requires OPPOSITION. Hortensis Dec 2022 #52

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #65

How is this different from when GOP congresscritters take credit for their earmarks? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #69

That is exactly right. She also voted against the infrastructure bill JohnSJ Dec 2022 #70

Not A Fan Of Symbolic Votes, But... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #32

"Hey, look at me! I need attention!!" Wanderlust988 Dec 2022 #54

I'm cool with her principles and it passed anyway. R you trying to make this a comparison w/ Manchin ZonkerHarris Dec 2022 #55

They have to make something out of this Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2022 #58

"They" "centrist heroes" betsuni Dec 2022 #64

Everything she said about it was right on point jcgoldie Dec 2022 #57

It was a protest vote! 🙄 Emile Dec 2022 #66

Why? betsuni Dec 2022 #67