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GregariousGroundhog

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21. I suspect its less of a money thing and more of a getting treated like crap thing.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 05:00 PM
Dec 2022

I did a quick Google search, and found the average teacher in Oklahoma gets paid about 12.2% more than the average of all professions, the national average being 11.7%. For comparison, Pennsylvania is the best, where teachers earn 28.5% more than the average of all professions and Arizona is the worst at paid 5.5% less than the average of all professions.

Their average class size seems to be about middle of the pack as well. Taking the high school level for example, Oklahoma has 23.8 students per teacher versus 29.3 in California (the worst state's ratio) and 14.7 in Vermont (the best state's ratio).

More money or smaller class sizes might help a little, but I suspect dealing with entitled parents and/or a crappy management at the principal or school board level is the bigger factor.

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The photograph is of state rep. Kyle Hilbert, who bears a striking resemblance Ocelot II Dec 2022 #1
Ma and Pa was cousins, but Ahm alright. rsdsharp Dec 2022 #14
Only a matter of time before this turns into an activist proving ground... EarthFirst Dec 2022 #2
I'm sure they will act on it. GPV Dec 2022 #15
Hire high school graduates, pay them minimum wage, tell them what to teach every day. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #3
They've been working toward this for a looong time judesedit Dec 2022 #4
Dumbing Down America: elleng Dec 2022 #5
It's called "The Deliberate Dumbing Down Of America" by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyte judesedit Dec 2022 #9
Dumbing Down America: The War on Our Nation's Brightest Young Minds elleng Dec 2022 #12
I'll have to check that one out, too. Thanks judesedit Dec 2022 #20
Yes, low IQ, uneducated, immoral candidates are popular now. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #8
"My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." Coming to a school near you. GPV Dec 2022 #16
Fascists usually kill all the intellectuals and scientists. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #17
Oh my God, indeed! Teaching requires training. That means college courses plus GPV Dec 2022 #6
See My Post #18 ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #19
Like America needs more dumbing down...this should work for that just fine dutch777 Dec 2022 #7
This can create a educational downward spiral. patphil Dec 2022 #10
Teaching and policing are both being made unattractive professions gulliver Dec 2022 #11
NEXT: Oklahoma allows middle school graduates to teach middle schools dalton99a Dec 2022 #13
Ummm... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #18
I suspect its less of a money thing and more of a getting treated like crap thing. GregariousGroundhog Dec 2022 #21
A Reasonable Surmise ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #23
It appears Oklahoma "forgot" to put guiderails on this GregariousGroundhog Dec 2022 #22
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