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77. It's all fodder for entertainment

Fri Sep 30, 2022, 11:21 AM

Sep 2022

Honestly, I think people who are in front of television all day - particularly cable news - begin to disassociate from what they're viewing and perceive it as just another drama coming out of the box. Root for protagonists, howl at the villains. Hurricane Ian is practically a sweeps event for them.

The only way a lot of the commentary I've read about this humanitarian crisis and others previously is if part of your brain shuts off and it doesn't register as real - real people, real hardship, real pain, real death, and all of it requiring real empathy.

No, there's this villain - let's call him Blaine - and Blaine could do anything! Next week he'll usurp Crystal at the next board meeting for control over Wockington Cosmetics. But right now, he's feeding innocents to alligators and hiding bodies - because that's just what Blaine does!

If I were ever King of All Earth, one of my edicts would be to start selectively cutting people off from TV and the Internet until they started acting like empathetic humans again.

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Hundreds of people have died in Florida [View all] malaise Sep 2022 OP

Oh noes . ... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #1

It seems the number of fatalities is a mystery at this point for some reason Walleye Sep 2022 #2

My thoughts too! Emile Sep 2022 #3

It just struck me because in other disasters the death toll is one of the things you hear first Walleye Sep 2022 #6

No mystery. Brenda Sep 2022 #5

It reminds me of the way Trump tried to play down the Covid threat Walleye Sep 2022 #8

Same with Covid - BK DeathSentence is evil malaise Sep 2022 #12

Yes it's a shame we can't trust the information from the state governor at a time like this Walleye Sep 2022 #14

This time there is FEMA malaise Sep 2022 #16

I wonder why Biden and FEMA don't release the numbers? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #25

They will malaise Sep 2022 #27

Yes it is looking like it is very bad. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #36

They probably don't know the full extent of Bettie Sep 2022 #48

Yes. It's a bit premature. Remember, the focus is still on saving lives, Hortensis Sep 2022 #51

Yep, just like Covid undercount. Brenda Sep 2022 #18

It disturbed me when Biden said "deadliest storm" bedazzled Oct 2022 #117

Yeah, back in the day hurricanes killed thousands. Brenda Oct 2022 #119

My condolences on your grandpa bedazzled Oct 2022 #121

The ravaged communities are wealthy and White. sir pball Oct 2022 #142

Climbing fast malaise Sep 2022 #9

I kind of thought the recovery effort would make it difficult to determine the number of lives lost Walleye Sep 2022 #13

DeSantis will just leave the deceased bodies floating in the water,... magicarpet Sep 2022 #35

Well, we should believe the rescue workers are working themselves Hortensis Sep 2022 #53

Oh no..why did so many stay? Demovictory9 Oct 2022 #129

I have a family friend and his wife a few miles from Fort Myers malaise Oct 2022 #131

The reason is, authorities/rescue can't get in to the areas. 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 #17

mystery? These areas are in RUINS. It doesn't take a day to search them Takket Sep 2022 #33

Considering what Florida did with COVID statistics maxrandb Sep 2022 #39

I know. It's pretty bad that we can't really trust the state government. Walleye Sep 2022 #40

Storm surge. Some people may have been swept out to sea as it receded. haele Sep 2022 #42

Yes I really hope it's not worse than we are hearing but it looks really really bad Walleye Sep 2022 #43

The number of transients and homeless will probably be undercounted. haele Sep 2022 #46

That really is a tragic situation Walleye Sep 2022 #49

A lot of homeless shelters arrange extra capacity and get the word out Hortensis Sep 2022 #58

Per CNN: death toll is 19 brooklynite Sep 2022 #4

And no hurricane is heading for Florida malaise Sep 2022 #10

Undercounted by at least 1000 % ananda Sep 2022 #24

Based on what? brooklynite Sep 2022 #28

Based on rightwing lies and manipulation of the narrative. ananda Sep 2022 #32

You're saying (without evidence) that they're suppressing the death count? brooklynite Sep 2022 #34

Just look at what Florida did in reporting COVID deaths and transmission maxrandb Sep 2022 #44

Not remotely the same brooklynite Sep 2022 #50

Just look at reality: they don't have numbers to suppress yet. Hortensis Sep 2022 #61

bullshit Takket Sep 2022 #37

+1. Yet another brainsucking social media storm Hortensis Sep 2022 #64

Thank you! Treefrog Sep 2022 #69

Not true. Treefrog Sep 2022 #68

And you think that initial count is the final word? Really? Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #169

I was stating the reported deaths at the time... brooklynite Oct 2022 #171

Yes it is... spanone Sep 2022 #7

Will Desatan Maine Abu El Banat Sep 2022 #11

THIS malaise Sep 2022 #15

There were 7 deaths due to Michael. Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #19

I heard most typically are post storm compared to during the event MichMan Sep 2022 #21

Yes, sadly. Or in car accidents because all the traffic lights Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #22

Drowning will be the number one cause this time malaise Sep 2022 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2022 #31

There will be many missing . . . Richard D Sep 2022 #20

Yes. nt Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #23

Don't the authorities say something like "dead or missing." ?? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #26

Yes, Richard D Sep 2022 #29

DeSantis will say,.... magicarpet Sep 2022 #38

If waves reached 16 feet high as feared GreenWave Sep 2022 #41

It seemed like months before we got the real death toll for Katrina, and bullwinkle428 Sep 2022 #45

And virtually all were the result of inadequate understanding Hortensis Sep 2022 #47

Cajun Navy guy on CNN just now Brenda Sep 2022 #52

I don't think most people really know. Renew Deal Sep 2022 #54

Ian had the four worst characterstics malaise Sep 2022 #56

Just passing along what someone in the field said. Brenda Sep 2022 #59

I heard him malaise Sep 2022 #55

Yep, drowned a lot, unfortunately. Brenda Sep 2022 #60

Someone just said reminds them of a tsunami. malaise Sep 2022 #62

Yeah, even long time Florida residents Brenda Sep 2022 #63

Wow, this is not true. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #88

Because people rely on official documentation. brooklynite Sep 2022 #57

That's for sure. Ask Lyndon B. Johnson about the Gulf of Tonkin. Kid Berwyn Sep 2022 #66

+100 Brenda Oct 2022 #110

I heard someone--FEMA Director or General Honore?--talking yesterday mnhtnbb Sep 2022 #65

The death toll is officially 12. Treefrog Sep 2022 #67

Tell that to your malaise Sep 2022 #70

You are blaming your blatantly wrong OP on Biden? Treefrog Oct 2022 #95

Apparently you don't have a clue what happened in Florida malaise Oct 2022 #96

I did not in any way attack you malaise. Treefrog Oct 2022 #98

I've been saying the toll would be in the thousands. ananda Oct 2022 #103

You are so obviously uninformed as to how deaths are Treefrog Oct 2022 #125

I'm also obviously correct. ananda Oct 2022 #130

Please post a link then. Treefrog Oct 2022 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #97

This thread is an embarrassment sarisataka Sep 2022 #71

Here - what is the meaning of substantial malaise Sep 2022 #72

"Substantial" in no way justifies just making up your own number FBaggins Sep 2022 #73

One of their guests said hundreds are dead malaise Sep 2022 #74

And "one of their guests" was the coroner counting the bodies? FBaggins Sep 2022 #76

To be fair, the sheriff of the worst-hit county also said "hundreds" yesterday muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #84

I'm not sure how that's "being fair" FBaggins Sep 2022 #87

It's "being fair" because, in this sub-thread alone, we have had muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #89

Nope - you're still not getting it FBaggins Sep 2022 #90

Pointing out the number is still speculation from those involved is also "being fair" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #91

"Substantial" "could" sarisataka Sep 2022 #75

It's all fodder for entertainment Sympthsical Sep 2022 #77

This poster did this before. Treefrog Sep 2022 #79

I had another poster tell me this obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #81

Seriously -- I actually live in SOFL and know folks whose families are rescuing people there obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #80

You posted that this storm was not heading to Florida malaise Sep 2022 #83

And you posted that trump would be indicted on September 22. Treefrog Oct 2022 #114

ROFL malaise Oct 2022 #116

Why are you making stuff up? Treefrog Sep 2022 #78

I have never posted about loss of life in hurricanes malaise Sep 2022 #82

I hate that your sincere concern about the people whose lives may Hortensis Sep 2022 #92

That is not true. Treefrog Oct 2022 #100

What is your source? iemanja Sep 2022 #85

I'm paying attention malaise Oct 2022 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #94

None obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #99

At best. Treefrog Oct 2022 #101

UPDATE: "Dozens dead" brooklynite Oct 2022 #102

Still not hundreds? Treefrog Oct 2022 #118

We don't know that yet. Tommy Carcetti Sep 2022 #86

I fear the number of displaced, too. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #104

Sadly many will be retirees who chose warm climes and the poor malaise Oct 2022 #105

That always hits me hardest in war reports and "cleansings" Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #106

That Spike Lee documentary was heart-brreaking malaise Oct 2022 #109

Yes, but most of the displaced can take of themselves. nt Hortensis Oct 2022 #126

Day 3 post Ian: Almost no reports of deaths. spanone Oct 2022 #107

Thank you. BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #108

Even M$NBComcast is now cutting off malaise Oct 2022 #111

Hurricane Ian Death Toll at 56 in Florida Brenda Oct 2022 #112

Water on a duck's back sis malaise Oct 2022 #113

Good! Brenda Oct 2022 #115

So you're actually saying you don't care what the truth is? Treefrog Oct 2022 #120

LOL you know it makes no sense arguing with someone who malaise Oct 2022 #122

You're repeating yourself. Treefrog Oct 2022 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #123

Regarding the "displaced people," fortunately it's not nearly as bad Hortensis Oct 2022 #127

Thanks for this malaise Oct 2022 #132

Oh, hope not. We used to visit in the Myakka River area Hortensis Oct 2022 #135

Wash Post says 23 so far. If you have a link to the info on your post please share ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #128

There is no link. Treefrog Oct 2022 #139

urging everyone who can to donate to the relief effort Skittles Oct 2022 #133

Thankfully we're still here ornotna Oct 2022 #136

So glad you and yours are OK malaise Oct 2022 #138

Thanks malaise ornotna Oct 2022 #141

this was sooo bad... it reminded me more of the Japanese Tsunami than a Hurricane. WarGamer Oct 2022 #137

Yes malaise Oct 2022 #140

47 count. So sad. Hope it doesn't rise XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #143

The Florida Medical Examiners Commission confirmed 73 deaths as of Saturday afternoon bigtree Oct 2022 #145

73 and "hundred's" are not the same thing. Time will tell. nt EX500rider Oct 2022 #150

Right wing sympathizers. Kingofalldems Oct 2022 #151

78. Witt reports 12 noon nt XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #144

The demolition crews are now going through debris malaise Oct 2022 #146

I pray no more XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #147

Yes, it is now a search and recovery process Brenda Oct 2022 #148

I'd love to be wrong but we were warned on Day One malaise Oct 2022 #149

there are scores of homeless migrants that may not be accounted for in house to house searches bigtree Oct 2022 #152

Too sad malaise Oct 2022 #153

What do the evangelical "Christians" say about this? mwb970 Oct 2022 #154

They got that covered. Brenda Oct 2022 #155

malaise ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #156

People on this OP were actually taking mcar Oct 2022 #157

We need to brace for some bad reports. Survivors will need a lot of help for quite a while. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #158

Yes. I'm guessing there will be many deaths mcar Oct 2022 #160

Trauma after hurricane... Brenda Oct 2022 #164

That's so sad mcar Oct 2022 #166

Yes it is. Brenda Oct 2022 #170

How sad malaise Oct 2022 #172

That is not what frightens me malaise Oct 2022 #161

Or three malaise Oct 2022 #159

Lordy mcar Oct 2022 #167

100 year storms are now almost yearly sky_masterson Oct 2022 #162

This one was a 500 year hurricane malaise Oct 2022 #163

So about every 5 years then sky_masterson Oct 2022 #165

We don:t know with climate change malaise Oct 2022 #168