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viguy007

(125 posts)
11. We disagree over the use of a word
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:54 PM
Nov 2012

As in, if the people down the street from you are gay and they want to get married. They can have a Domestic Partnership ceremony and celebration. This can have all the "rights" of a marriage, just the document from the state is a "Certificate of Domestic Partnership." Why fight over the usage of a word as long as the rights are equal.

I agree the government should not be involved except for the legal consequences. Therefore there must be a way a committed relationship is recognized. But there is no reason to call it a marriage.

Another example, a woman has the basic human right of control over her own body. Yet at what point is that group of cells growing in her womb become a human being, entitled to legal rights? Since there is no single scientific answer to this question, it must be left up to the states based on local values. Common sense tells me that if a woman's life or health is in danger, at any point in a pregnancy, the decision have an abortion, is entirely up to her. This includes a pregnancy caused by rape or incest since it impacts a woman's mental health. The right to life of an actual person always outweigh the right to life of a potential person. The state must not interfere with any decision she makes about having an abortion. But other than this, abortion should be subject to state law, not federal law. If a state is too restrictive she can always cross state lines.

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K&R Jamastiene Nov 2012 #1
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2012 #2
To think the Republicans RAN on being anti-gay in 04. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #3
Oddly, many people on the "left" seem deeply invested in the idea that our culture is getting worse. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #23
What, are you kidding? Even during the Bush Years we could see the transformation.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #25
Oh, its been on an improving trajectory. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #27
Republicans couldn't survive if everybody was informed and voted. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #4
Same-sex marriage is not a "foreign value forced on others", it is a matter of EQUALITY. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #5
I believe all domestic partnerships should have equal rights viguy007 Nov 2012 #10
It's only a word, why fight over it?! Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #12
"It is only a word, why fight over it". Seriously you have to ask? William769 Nov 2012 #16
Equal protection under the law has FieryLocks Nov 2012 #17
It's not just a word EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2012 #18
I see it closely paralleling religious freedom. reusrename Nov 2012 #29
So all that time mythology Nov 2012 #22
If a more local level is better, how about the most local level of all- the individual? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #6
We disagree over the use of a word viguy007 Nov 2012 #11
Why deny the gay couple down the street the right to use the civic word "marriage" just b/c it bugs Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #14
Indeed, why argue over the use of a word when the solution is simple. Equal rights. And regarding uppityperson Nov 2012 #20
Why should the state legislate a difference without distinction? Its marriage for everyone. marble falls Aug 2019 #32
The most local is the indiviual. Vanje Nov 2012 #24
The irony here is that the only Federal efforts are to ban same sex marriage hootinholler Nov 2012 #26
I'd like to inject a bit of history into the marriage equality issue justiceischeap Nov 2012 #7
Shared for my daughter, for my friends, for those I don't know, for us all. wellstone dem Nov 2012 #8
Good luck Wellstone Dem! WillParkinson Nov 2012 #9
I'm for getting rid of the term "marriage" and make them all "domestic partnerships" cherish44 Nov 2012 #13
Y'know what, though? yoyossarian Nov 2012 #15
+1 n/t ChazII Nov 2012 #19
That is not going to happen. "Marriage" as a civic and legal intitution is well established. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #21
Thank you! WillParkinson Nov 2012 #30
Man, we have come a long way. DonRedwood Nov 2012 #31
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