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justiceischeap

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7. I'd like to inject a bit of history into the marriage equality issue

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:26 AM

Nov 2012

Before Christ and Christianity, there are recorded same-sex marriages. This is a right people once had before Christianity spread across the Roman culture and the rest of the world.

We shouldn't be creating laws, at any level, based on religious beliefs because I guarantee you, my religious beliefs, or non-belief, do not match up with anyone who uses religion as an excuse to discriminate or treat people badly.

The Constitution affords us freedom of religion but it also offers freedom FROM religion. So people who feel "marriage" should be something reserved only for straight people have every right to believe that but they do NOT have the right to make that belief a law because you're not only discriminating against me because I'm gay but you're also taking away my freedom FROM religion.

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I am your reason to support marriage equality - You *must* watch this! [View all] WillParkinson Nov 2012 OP

K&R Jamastiene Nov 2012 #1

K&R Solly Mack Nov 2012 #2

To think the Republicans RAN on being anti-gay in 04. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #3

Oddly, many people on the "left" seem deeply invested in the idea that our culture is getting worse. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #23

What, are you kidding? Even during the Bush Years we could see the transformation.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #25

Oh, its been on an improving trajectory. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #27

Republicans couldn't survive if everybody was informed and voted. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #28

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #4

Same-sex marriage is not a "foreign value forced on others", it is a matter of EQUALITY. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #5

I believe all domestic partnerships should have equal rights viguy007 Nov 2012 #10

It's only a word, why fight over it?! Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #12

"It is only a word, why fight over it". Seriously you have to ask? William769 Nov 2012 #16

Equal protection under the law has FieryLocks Nov 2012 #17

It's not just a word EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2012 #18

I see it closely paralleling religious freedom. reusrename Nov 2012 #29

So all that time mythology Nov 2012 #22

If a more local level is better, how about the most local level of all- the individual? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #6

We disagree over the use of a word viguy007 Nov 2012 #11

Why deny the gay couple down the street the right to use the civic word "marriage" just b/c it bugs Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #14

Indeed, why argue over the use of a word when the solution is simple. Equal rights. And regarding uppityperson Nov 2012 #20

Why should the state legislate a difference without distinction? Its marriage for everyone. marble falls Aug 2019 #32

The most local is the indiviual. Vanje Nov 2012 #24

The irony here is that the only Federal efforts are to ban same sex marriage hootinholler Nov 2012 #26

I'd like to inject a bit of history into the marriage equality issue justiceischeap Nov 2012 #7

Shared for my daughter, for my friends, for those I don't know, for us all. wellstone dem Nov 2012 #8

Good luck Wellstone Dem! WillParkinson Nov 2012 #9

I'm for getting rid of the term "marriage" and make them all "domestic partnerships" cherish44 Nov 2012 #13

Y'know what, though? yoyossarian Nov 2012 #15

+1 n/t ChazII Nov 2012 #19

That is not going to happen. "Marriage" as a civic and legal intitution is well established. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #21

Thank you! WillParkinson Nov 2012 #30

Man, we have come a long way. DonRedwood Nov 2012 #31