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John1956PA

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21. An honest lower would be at a loss applying this case to a similar claim brought to it.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:04 AM
Jun 2022

But the junta knows that these prayers-at-football-games cases are not going to be common. This case was groomed to be heard by this court for larger reasons. The fired coach went on a tour of speaking engagements and TV talk show appearances to propel the case to the court. Powerful right-wing forces pushed him along his way because the plan was to get the junta to hear one or more separation- of-church-and-state cases of different stripes so that existing precedent could be overruled. In the large scope of things, prayer at football games is not a major issue. But other violations of church-and-state separation are big issues, and this junta is posed to allow those violations to occur. I feel sorry for the school district which was caught up in this coach's theatrics. One of the main reasons why the school district fired him was that it feared for the safety of band members who were being bowled over by football players (often from the opposing teams who were encouraged by right-wing operatives) to rally around the couch for his public spectacles.

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Unable to reply for fear of being ejected. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #1
I don't understand that. It's a question about applying the ruling. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #2
Unable to reply for fear of being ejected. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #3
I'm with you and I'm Jewish. mucifer Jun 2022 #11
Ejected from what? A fighter jet that's about to crash? Not sure what you mean. Hope you are ok emulatorloo Jun 2022 #30
Poster has 3 hides. Mosby Jun 2022 #40
Yeah I have been there. Four bad hides, one wacky jury away from a ban . Thanks for the heads up. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #45
A heads up, you could get a hide for a post like this. So probably better just to lay low for emulatorloo Jun 2022 #46
May I respectfully suggest... Mister Ed Jun 2022 #31
You just did reply to the post. Albeit in a cryptic way. Politicub Jun 2022 #38
IANAL, but intrepidity Jun 2022 #4
"on the 50 yard line in the middle of the game." Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #5
As I posted elsewhere intrepidity Jun 2022 #8
Oh, but that's one of those parts of the Bible they don't have to follow. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2022 #41
The junta set the precedent that "tradition" overrides separation of church and state. John1956PA Jun 2022 #6
But there was no tradition till this guy started it, right? So is it that anyone can do something Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #7
Thank you, too. The junta used this case as a bulldozer to overrule a 1970s case. John1956PA Jun 2022 #14
That is feckin' terrifying. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #16
An honest lower would be at a loss applying this case to a similar claim brought to it. John1956PA Jun 2022 #21
So I guess we will be seeing more of these eroding the fundamental basis for our country. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #23
You are welcome, and thank you for your cordial replies. John1956PA Jun 2022 #25
To you too. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #29
I would love to see any ruling like this ... Novara Jun 2022 #10
I would love to know this. Lawyers? Anyone know? Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #12
One of the first things I learned in law school is that the 'facts' Tomconroy Jun 2022 #15
So this is not unusual? Interesting. I never knew. But then what does Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #17
There is a 'free exercise clause' as well as a 'non-establishment' Tomconroy Jun 2022 #13
Tell me about this. Are you saying they are justifying his act on the basis of these two? Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #18
This really isn't my issue and I haven't read the opinion, Tomconroy Jun 2022 #19
THANK YOU, ALL! This is a bit clearer to me now. I appreciate all the replies. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #20
I think I can add some context FBaggins Jun 2022 #22
Bluster, and, it seems from the answers above that this is one part of a whole that will Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #26
I don't know... but I doubt that they need to FBaggins Jun 2022 #28
Thanks, that's helpful. nt sl8 Jun 2022 #27
One of the areas of the case I found interesting Sympthsical Jun 2022 #37
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #44
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #43
When the facts of a case change or are wrong, it can be appealed. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #24
That could be intentional FBaggins Jun 2022 #32
Does this coach thinks God cares who wins the football game? Emile Jun 2022 #33
Would such a prayer occur before the game? nt FBaggins Jun 2022 #34
I have a question. Haven't footballers been praying leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #35
There is nothing preventing players from praying. When I was a HS Coach, I stood JCMach1 Jun 2022 #39
Trying to picture Jesus in a football helmet, wnylib Jun 2022 #36
I will repeat moniss Jun 2022 #42
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