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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:21 AM Jun 2022

Bill Clinton and Tony Blair Have a Warning for Progressives [View all]

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Bill Clinton and Tony Blair no longer have power, but they still have advice. They perceive plenty of people in need of it.

The needy include progressives in the United Kingdom, where the Labour Party has not had power in a long while, and the United States, where the Democratic Party has power for now but looks likely to lose lots of it in midterm elections this fall. Together, they offered a fitness program of sorts for members of their own parties that they fear are getting badly out of shape.

Clinton urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of persuasion. “I think one of the ways you win elections is by talking straight with people and giving them permission to vote against you,” he explains in the most recent edition of his podcast. In other words, don’t hector and moralize, as though the merits of your position should be self-evident to any decent person. Assume a position of modesty that argues, “If you really disagree with this, then you will go out and take another choice, but here’s why I think it’s better for you.”

Blair urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of self-discipline. For much of the left, Blair said on Clinton’s program, it’s not clear that their main goal is really to win power or wield it: “Its primary purpose is to make itself feel good about itself, right? To convince itself that it’s principled, right? But that is in the end, something that leads you to self-indulgence.” Unless progressives commit to reclaiming the center in “culture wars,” Blair added, they’ll remain vulnerable to “some loose remark from someone” being exploited by the right and will be “hammered day in, day out. That’s just not competent politics.”

A reasonable question: Who cares what these superannuated politicians have to say? A reasonable answer: Even now, a generation after they came to power, Clinton and Blair are still the emblematic representatives of a distinct brand of progressive centrism.
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I agree, we need more Joe Manchins and Joe Liebermans. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #1
From my view, I don't think we have much of a choice In It to Win It Jun 2022 #2
What about Pennsylvania? gab13by13 Jun 2022 #6
You picked one state out of many In It to Win It Jun 2022 #11
Funny 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #4
Republicans had control of Congress for six years of his presidency. betsuni Jun 2022 #5
Crucial context Mad_Machine76 Jun 2022 #20
All of which (in some cases) Mad_Machine76 Jun 2022 #21
Bill Clinton ran as a progressive? Polybius Jun 2022 #23
That's not what Bill is saying Buckeyeblue Jun 2022 #27
I agree with you 100%. Samrob Jun 2022 #28
Austerity as necessary! Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #3
Yeah, we must vote for 3rd Way neoliberals, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #8
LOL Third Way Neoliberals. You forgot "status quo." betsuni Jun 2022 #9
Corporatist and DINO too! AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #19
Typical Politico hit job on liberalism, progressivism, and of course Democrats. Hortensis Jun 2022 #7
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #10
I don't share the "right wing rag" "hit job" platitudes of some folks here. brooklynite Jun 2022 #13
Obviously, you choose not to. Differences about where the line Hortensis Jun 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PdamnedQ Jun 2022 #16
The progressive ideas that Biden has adopted are popular with the American people. CentralMass Jun 2022 #12
If we need to "explain" the defunding police wording, we are losing the argument. CTyankee Jun 2022 #26
+1 CentralMass Jun 2022 #29
I'll put their warning in the file. Autumn Jun 2022 #15
I live among the Magats in central Pa. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #17
Progressives move center and center-right politicians to the LEFT blogslug Jun 2022 #18
Progressives believe in progressive government. Hortensis Jun 2022 #22
Hell no. CentralMass Jun 2022 #24
Clinton is right. Didn't read the part about Blair but Labour has JI7 Jun 2022 #25
These are 2 I don't listen to AZProgressive Jun 2022 #30
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