Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Showing Original Post only (View all)Bill Clinton and Tony Blair Have a Warning for Progressives [View all]
PoliticoBill Clinton and Tony Blair no longer have power, but they still have advice. They perceive plenty of people in need of it.
The needy include progressives in the United Kingdom, where the Labour Party has not had power in a long while, and the United States, where the Democratic Party has power for now but looks likely to lose lots of it in midterm elections this fall. Together, they offered a fitness program of sorts for members of their own parties that they fear are getting badly out of shape.
Clinton urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of persuasion. I think one of the ways you win elections is by talking straight with people and giving them permission to vote against you, he explains in the most recent edition of his podcast. In other words, dont hector and moralize, as though the merits of your position should be self-evident to any decent person. Assume a position of modesty that argues, If you really disagree with this, then you will go out and take another choice, but heres why I think its better for you.
Blair urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of self-discipline. For much of the left, Blair said on Clintons program, its not clear that their main goal is really to win power or wield it: Its primary purpose is to make itself feel good about itself, right? To convince itself that its principled, right? But that is in the end, something that leads you to self-indulgence. Unless progressives commit to reclaiming the center in culture wars, Blair added, theyll remain vulnerable to some loose remark from someone being exploited by the right and will be hammered day in, day out. Thats just not competent politics.
A reasonable question: Who cares what these superannuated politicians have to say? A reasonable answer: Even now, a generation after they came to power, Clinton and Blair are still the emblematic representatives of a distinct brand of progressive centrism.
The needy include progressives in the United Kingdom, where the Labour Party has not had power in a long while, and the United States, where the Democratic Party has power for now but looks likely to lose lots of it in midterm elections this fall. Together, they offered a fitness program of sorts for members of their own parties that they fear are getting badly out of shape.
Clinton urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of persuasion. I think one of the ways you win elections is by talking straight with people and giving them permission to vote against you, he explains in the most recent edition of his podcast. In other words, dont hector and moralize, as though the merits of your position should be self-evident to any decent person. Assume a position of modesty that argues, If you really disagree with this, then you will go out and take another choice, but heres why I think its better for you.
Blair urges progressives to rebuild atrophied muscles of self-discipline. For much of the left, Blair said on Clintons program, its not clear that their main goal is really to win power or wield it: Its primary purpose is to make itself feel good about itself, right? To convince itself that its principled, right? But that is in the end, something that leads you to self-indulgence. Unless progressives commit to reclaiming the center in culture wars, Blair added, theyll remain vulnerable to some loose remark from someone being exploited by the right and will be hammered day in, day out. Thats just not competent politics.
A reasonable question: Who cares what these superannuated politicians have to say? A reasonable answer: Even now, a generation after they came to power, Clinton and Blair are still the emblematic representatives of a distinct brand of progressive centrism.
30 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Typical Politico hit job on liberalism, progressivism, and of course Democrats.
Hortensis
Jun 2022
#7
I don't share the "right wing rag" "hit job" platitudes of some folks here.
brooklynite
Jun 2022
#13
The progressive ideas that Biden has adopted are popular with the American people.
CentralMass
Jun 2022
#12
If we need to "explain" the defunding police wording, we are losing the argument.
CTyankee
Jun 2022
#26