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ProfessorGAC

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37. At Most Of The Schools Where I Sub...

Fri May 27, 2022, 04:38 PM

May 2022

...at least 3 in every 4 doors is glass. So a determined psychopath isn't being stopped. There's no doubt what you say is true.
But, firing rounds just to get in might give the alert to teachers inside to start barricading doors, setting up barriers & impediments to dissuade a killer from entering that room.
I've even surveyed rooms looking for something to tie the doorhandle to the computer cart, to make it hard to open the door. (Those same fire codes require classroom doors to open outward.)
Since I sub in a lot of science classes, I've actually moved fire extinguishers closer to the door. In a desperate situation blasting an intruder with CO2 might(!) help a little.
But, if a bad guy really wants to get in, they will.
The school's outer doors still should have been locked, though.

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If I had an AR-15 and came upon a "locked door", couldn't I simply fire a few rounds into [View all] Leghorn21 May 2022 OP

There are AR "experts" floating around here; maybe one of them'll respond. shrike3 May 2022 #1

A 12 gauge AR shotgun certainly would Kaleva May 2022 #3

No need...can buy what u need from same Merchant of Death Gun Store. Maybe a grenade? Alexander Of Assyria May 2022 #25

I joked once that maybe we need tanks. shrike3 May 2022 #26

I would think so and doesn't the office have keys? Kaleva May 2022 #2

I think the point is that it doesn't make a difference how many locks you put on the doors unitedwethrive May 2022 #4

Doors can slow down a determined intruder Kaleva May 2022 #7

At the press conference, the colonel said they got a key from the janitor. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #18

Assuredly they don't. sarisataka May 2022 #27

I would not assume the police have a key pinkstarburst May 2022 #31

Of course Timewas May 2022 #5

not if it is hardened with depleted uranium armor.. Blues Heron May 2022 #6

Yes, the cops should have shot the lock off the door! Emile May 2022 #8

What if an innocent was on the other side? BlackSkimmer May 2022 #19

I'm not about to start making excuses for these do nothing cops! They Emile May 2022 #34

That only works in the movies. nt DURHAM D May 2022 #9

Pretty Much ProfessorGAC May 2022 #36

Depending on the fire rating of the door, grumpyduck May 2022 #10

Not really. BruceWane May 2022 #11

Breaching rounds for shotguns are available Kaleva May 2022 #14

Exactly CelticCrow May 2022 #35

Are there dead bolts on classroom doors or does the lock just prevent the knob from turning? myccrider May 2022 #40

so it's the unlocked door, the cops afraid to enter the building, video games, the killer's agingdem May 2022 #12

There's reports of him shooting the classroom door next to an adjacent classroom. herding cats May 2022 #13

Then fire fighters just shrug their shoulders and go home? I don't think they have assault rifles. usonian May 2022 #15

You keep showing this pic, obviously taken days after the shooting. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #23

There's an irony to it. The juxtaposition of the "protectors" and those that they failed. usonian May 2022 #28

"It comes from a RW site." Yikes. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #29

Like I said, the crosses represent failure, and what's to guard? Nothing can bother these kids now. usonian May 2022 #30

I wonder if we'll ever get to see the door. gldstwmn May 2022 #16

As the answer ofter is, it depends sarisataka May 2022 #17

How about taking a fire truck through the outside wall or windows? 33taw May 2022 #20

Maybe children getting run over? BlackSkimmer May 2022 #24

I didn't say drive into the room. Break and opening into the room. 33taw May 2022 #32

If it's a steel door, I'd be leery of a ricochet.... lastlib May 2022 #21

Yes or simply go in through a window Arazi May 2022 #22

All school doors must allow someone inside to exit regardless if they're locked from Gaugamela May 2022 #33

At Most Of The Schools Where I Sub... ProfessorGAC May 2022 #37

Yes, as I recall the front doors at Sandy Hook were locked, and the shooter just shot his Gaugamela May 2022 #38

Depends. Calista241 May 2022 #39