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Kaleva

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25. Training and practice limits over reaction

Sun Apr 24, 2022, 04:05 PM

Apr 2022

Humans don't do well when trying to think under stressful situations that rarely happen.

People who have guns for home or personal protection need to think out and practice for situations where they believe drawing a gun would be necessary. It might even be wise to do this even before getting a gun.

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long island man shoots ding dong ditcher with shotgun [View all] Demovictory9 Apr 2022 OP

A prankster, not a burglar ck4829 Apr 2022 #1

Got to love the buzzwords being dropped for his defense Docreed2003 Apr 2022 #2

Something learned from the mantra of killer police? Model35mech Apr 2022 #3

A bit of all of those Docreed2003 Apr 2022 #7

NY is not a "stand your ground" state melm00se Apr 2022 #38

Thanks for that, accuracy is great, still a person could have -learned- that Model35mech Apr 2022 #39

The shooter is fucked in New York...you shoot someone in Long Island better drag them into Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #40

I always love this piece of advice sarisataka Apr 2022 #49

I don't think it's unreasonable to feel frightened or threatened meadowlander Apr 2022 #28

I don't know where you live but it doesn't work that way in New York. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #41

Might or might not NutmegYankee Apr 2022 #45

If convicted, there is a mandatory sentence of two years period...and this assumes the Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #54

Bookmark this post so we can revisit who was right a few years down the road. NutmegYankee Apr 2022 #55

Agree 100% eom Karma13612 Apr 2022 #56

Assault? Not attempted murder? Takket Apr 2022 #4

I know, right? ck4829 Apr 2022 #5

Attempted murder requires the intent to kill. Straw Man Apr 2022 #37

The guy shot through the door...it looks like intent to me...and charges can be upgraded. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #42

The homeowner probably won't meet the Mens Rea element for attempted murder. NutmegYankee Apr 2022 #51

He will do at least two years (the minimum) this is mandatory upon conviction and more likely Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #53

Bagging on a BACK door in the early morning hours DenaliDemocrat Apr 2022 #6

Yeah, I have mixed feelings about this PatSeg Apr 2022 #8

Call the police...and then load your gun go upstairs in a bedroom and wait...if they Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #43

Yes, I agree PatSeg Apr 2022 #50

glad you picked up on that. stopdiggin Apr 2022 #9

Sorry that is what the police are for...I hope the guy gets charged with attempte murder Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #14

that would have been a much better option stopdiggin Apr 2022 #15

I played that game as a kid...got caught by my Science teacher who told my parents...I would Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #44

This is new way prank occurs.. Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #23

They might have been doing it this way..donkey kicking the door..its current tik tok challenge Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #22

gosh. that is SOOOO hilarious! stopdiggin Apr 2022 #30

I would be terrified if my door was kicked like that in the middle of the night. /nt IcyPeas Apr 2022 #33

I'm not surprised because so many idiots own guns Kaleva Apr 2022 #24

Well, if someone is pounding my BACK door DenaliDemocrat Apr 2022 #31

Pounding on a door isn't the same as kicking one in. Kaleva Apr 2022 #35

A man in Michigan is serving life because he shot through the door and killed a girl looking Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #46

No surprise, he donated to TFG. nt bbernardini Apr 2022 #10

It's all fun and games until... StarryNite Apr 2022 #11

being awoken by a terrified wife about someone breaking in... SYFROYH Apr 2022 #12

It is not understandable...this is Long Island...call the cops. The guy was an idiot and deserves Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #13

I'm sorry you have to go through that. SYFROYH Apr 2022 #16

I refuse to serve on juries until the Justice System is better but I would convict... Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #32

In New York, he will be convicted of felony and no more guns thankfully for him. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #47

I'm a gun owner with admittedly loose views on self-defense in your home... sir pball Apr 2022 #57

Quite so. Shooting through a door is incredibly reckless. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #17

Training and practice limits over reaction Kaleva Apr 2022 #25

Is that a tool for getting rid of these? milestogo Apr 2022 #18

havent had a Ding Dong in 40 plus years... still remember the taste though Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #27

Yes! They taste better that way! AwakeAtLast Apr 2022 #34

We called it ring and run when I was a kid and we didn't do backdoors, to hard to get away. Hotler Apr 2022 #19

We were traumatized by doorbell ditchers eissa Apr 2022 #20

Play stupid games and get yourself shot at, it's going to happen. nt Raine Apr 2022 #21

And acting stupidly with a gun will often justly result in charged Kaleva Apr 2022 #26

Stupid kids and stupid adults, put them together and a disaster in the making. nt Raine Apr 2022 #29

Especially if the stupid adult has a gun Kaleva Apr 2022 #36

Kids are stupid...but adults can't afford to act that way. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #52

Yeah well shoot kids through the door...going to spend a decade in prison...minimum in New York. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #48

Lol, really?? Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #59

ok lol nt Torchlight Apr 2022 #60

... ck4829 Apr 2022 #58