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47. "Should" isn't "Commanding" or "bad faith." Talk about illogic.

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Putin's Hypersonic Missiles Should be Announced by the West As Escalation [View all] ancianita Mar 2022 OP

K&R! dchill Mar 2022 #1

Hypersonic missiles against US aircraft carriers NickB79 Mar 2022 #2

One minute the aircraft carrier has to live. The Javelins have been shown more successful, ancianita Mar 2022 #3

I wouldn't consider this a major escalation Abnredleg Mar 2022 #4

It is nuclear capable. Ukraine is practice. A test run. The more time we give Russia, the more ancianita Mar 2022 #6

They don't need a test run to deliver nukes Abnredleg Mar 2022 #11

Thank you. A good reason for anyone to be scared. ancianita Mar 2022 #15

And no one is fixating. Notice I brought up three systems, not one. ancianita Mar 2022 #16

When did "hypersonic" missiles become so scary? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #5

Scary? What are you trying to say? ancianita Mar 2022 #8

I'm saying that most missiles are hypersonic at some point, so "hypersonic" shouldn't be a scare WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #24

So based on what you know, I should just accept a "not much to see here" explanation? ancianita Mar 2022 #27

because they're barely detectable and unstoppable. WarGamer Mar 2022 #9

That's important against carriers Abnredleg Mar 2022 #13

I think it's more about the threat... WarGamer Mar 2022 #14

I wouldn't go that far Abnredleg Mar 2022 #19

Good point... can a hypersonic missile track a 22 knot ship zig-zagging? WarGamer Mar 2022 #26

Carrier battle groups are hugely important to US military tactics NickB79 Mar 2022 #17

Targeting is going to be the issue Abnredleg Mar 2022 #20

Very good points. NickB79 Mar 2022 #23

A Kinzhal is just an air-launched Iskander, which have been used plenty over the past couple WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #21

It's an expected response to the weapons shipments to Ukraine from the West. WarGamer Mar 2022 #7

Glad to get an "expected response" explanation. Didn't know that was part of war tactics. ancianita Mar 2022 #10

It's more about politics. WarGamer Mar 2022 #12

Sure. And upping our game is accusing him of escalation. If it's a wrong move by the West, ancianita Mar 2022 #18

It's not just his feudal politics, it's his 21st Century tech backing up a feudal war of attrition. ancianita Mar 2022 #22

I'm not sure... WarGamer Mar 2022 #25

Neither is the military, from all appearances. But this is no dress rehearsal. ancianita Mar 2022 #28

Again with the "hypersonic" missiles? It's nothing but Russian propaganda maxrandb Mar 2022 #29

It's my first time. You're welcome to ask why I posted it. You can post other links, too. ancianita Mar 2022 #30

I apologize. Wasn't meant to give you that impression maxrandb Mar 2022 #32

We're straight. ancianita Mar 2022 #33

Wow. Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #31

US carriers top out in the 30+ knot range (56 km/h; 35 mph) EX500rider Mar 2022 #36

The "official" speed from the Navy is "in excess of 30 knots" maxrandb Mar 2022 #39

Well... EX500rider Mar 2022 #41

More jets should be patrolling the Black Sea. Where they come from is immaterial n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #34

How on earth would such a declaration be of any help whatsoever (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #35

Would the West's silence help in the face of Putin's use of hypersonic missiles? ancianita Mar 2022 #37

Silence and declaring this an escalation are far from the only two responses available. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #38

Great. As far as they are from the only responses, what have you got? ancianita Mar 2022 #40

Well I don't provoke others with logical fallacies. Think thru what such an announcement would do. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #44

If you don't think I've thought it through, then what would it do. ancianita Mar 2022 #45

Nope. Conversation in good faith isnt commanding others. Not cool. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #46

"Should" isn't "Commanding" or "bad faith." Talk about illogic. ancianita Mar 2022 #47

I said if you're just going to attack, rather than converse, I'm done. Bye. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #48

Talk about projection. You've made no-effort posts. You start with dismissal, refuse to explain ancianita Mar 2022 #49

Beginning to look like it was staged. pecosbob Mar 2022 #42

Well, good, then. Planet Lab's higher level satellite geolocation technology now gives us a clearer ancianita Mar 2022 #43