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ancianita

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30. It's my first time. You're welcome to ask why I posted it. You can post other links, too.

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:10 PM

Mar 2022

I'm only a Vietnam war Army officer's wife, and so didn't serve, and of course I don't know about the Russian military or naval carriers, though my brother was a Seaman recruit, later an electrical Apprentice out of San Diego.

Putin might be insane, but the folks that would need to pull the trigger aren't.

Shoot at a US or Nato warship and the Russia we know would not longer exist.

In fact, I think the most likely outcome of this Russian action against Ukraine will most likely be regime change in Russia.

Your confidence makes me feel a lot better about the weapons and tactics. I hope to see an OP from you on these things in upcoming weeks, because lord knows how much more seriously sanctions (he's stealing humanitarian aid from Ukraine) will affect Putin's military.

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Putin's Hypersonic Missiles Should be Announced by the West As Escalation [View all] ancianita Mar 2022 OP

K&R! dchill Mar 2022 #1

Hypersonic missiles against US aircraft carriers NickB79 Mar 2022 #2

One minute the aircraft carrier has to live. The Javelins have been shown more successful, ancianita Mar 2022 #3

I wouldn't consider this a major escalation Abnredleg Mar 2022 #4

It is nuclear capable. Ukraine is practice. A test run. The more time we give Russia, the more ancianita Mar 2022 #6

They don't need a test run to deliver nukes Abnredleg Mar 2022 #11

Thank you. A good reason for anyone to be scared. ancianita Mar 2022 #15

And no one is fixating. Notice I brought up three systems, not one. ancianita Mar 2022 #16

When did "hypersonic" missiles become so scary? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #5

Scary? What are you trying to say? ancianita Mar 2022 #8

I'm saying that most missiles are hypersonic at some point, so "hypersonic" shouldn't be a scare WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #24

So based on what you know, I should just accept a "not much to see here" explanation? ancianita Mar 2022 #27

because they're barely detectable and unstoppable. WarGamer Mar 2022 #9

That's important against carriers Abnredleg Mar 2022 #13

I think it's more about the threat... WarGamer Mar 2022 #14

I wouldn't go that far Abnredleg Mar 2022 #19

Good point... can a hypersonic missile track a 22 knot ship zig-zagging? WarGamer Mar 2022 #26

Carrier battle groups are hugely important to US military tactics NickB79 Mar 2022 #17

Targeting is going to be the issue Abnredleg Mar 2022 #20

Very good points. NickB79 Mar 2022 #23

A Kinzhal is just an air-launched Iskander, which have been used plenty over the past couple WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #21

It's an expected response to the weapons shipments to Ukraine from the West. WarGamer Mar 2022 #7

Glad to get an "expected response" explanation. Didn't know that was part of war tactics. ancianita Mar 2022 #10

It's more about politics. WarGamer Mar 2022 #12

Sure. And upping our game is accusing him of escalation. If it's a wrong move by the West, ancianita Mar 2022 #18

It's not just his feudal politics, it's his 21st Century tech backing up a feudal war of attrition. ancianita Mar 2022 #22

I'm not sure... WarGamer Mar 2022 #25

Neither is the military, from all appearances. But this is no dress rehearsal. ancianita Mar 2022 #28

Again with the "hypersonic" missiles? It's nothing but Russian propaganda maxrandb Mar 2022 #29

It's my first time. You're welcome to ask why I posted it. You can post other links, too. ancianita Mar 2022 #30

I apologize. Wasn't meant to give you that impression maxrandb Mar 2022 #32

We're straight. ancianita Mar 2022 #33

Wow. Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #31

US carriers top out in the 30+ knot range (56 km/h; 35 mph) EX500rider Mar 2022 #36

The "official" speed from the Navy is "in excess of 30 knots" maxrandb Mar 2022 #39

Well... EX500rider Mar 2022 #41

More jets should be patrolling the Black Sea. Where they come from is immaterial n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #34

How on earth would such a declaration be of any help whatsoever (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #35

Would the West's silence help in the face of Putin's use of hypersonic missiles? ancianita Mar 2022 #37

Silence and declaring this an escalation are far from the only two responses available. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #38

Great. As far as they are from the only responses, what have you got? ancianita Mar 2022 #40

Well I don't provoke others with logical fallacies. Think thru what such an announcement would do. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #44

If you don't think I've thought it through, then what would it do. ancianita Mar 2022 #45

Nope. Conversation in good faith isnt commanding others. Not cool. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #46

"Should" isn't "Commanding" or "bad faith." Talk about illogic. ancianita Mar 2022 #47

I said if you're just going to attack, rather than converse, I'm done. Bye. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #48

Talk about projection. You've made no-effort posts. You start with dismissal, refuse to explain ancianita Mar 2022 #49

Beginning to look like it was staged. pecosbob Mar 2022 #42

Well, good, then. Planet Lab's higher level satellite geolocation technology now gives us a clearer ancianita Mar 2022 #43