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3. Perhaps because we think that we must try everything short of a shooting war that would probably

Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:57 AM

Mar 2022

expand to encompass the world? If Putin was able to bait NATO into a shooting war, it is my humble opinion, that China would join in and "liberate" all of the people in the Pacific, beginning with Taiwan. They both watched our Army struggle in Afghanistan and have no respect for our ability to defend ourselves. It could be a replay of WWII, with the US having to defend to the West, and Europe to the East. This time the industrial weapon is on the other foot, China has it, we don't.

I (we) have squandered my (our) resistance
For a pocketful of mumbles such are promises
All lies and jest
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest, mhmm

Lets try to make it too painful for them economically before we start WWIII. There will always be time for that later.

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If belarus and other states are joining russia's fight in the Ukraine, why isn't the West joining? [View all] samsingh Mar 2022 OP

There's genocide happening? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #1

If NATO troops were to join the fight then you do indeed have WW3 SoonerPride Mar 2022 #2

From what I read, Putin's being pretty damn cautious with his air forces already. Bucky Mar 2022 #6

Perhaps because we think that we must try everything short of a shooting war that would probably Chainfire Mar 2022 #3

That is am interesting assessment of the issue. Great points. CentralMass Mar 2022 #26

It's not that simple. Besides, Belarus's role is pretty limited. Bucky Mar 2022 #4

to glow or not to glow, that is the question. Javaman Mar 2022 #5

Your reply title really did make me laugh out loud.... Sogo Mar 2022 #10

Why do we need to join? sarisataka Mar 2022 #7

Ukraine "won" the first phase. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #14

IMO Putin is using as much force and brutality as necessary to accomplish CentralMass Mar 2022 #28

CNN reports Gen Milley going to meet with European/NATO Deminpenn Mar 2022 #8

Here's an explainer... chowder66 Mar 2022 #9

It's a massive mistake. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #12

Agree. If Belarus joins in - so should we. kiranon Mar 2022 #15

I think a no-fly zone is possible. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #16

No, no-fly zone means hitting enemy air defenses first to protect our jets. Air to air defense next Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #19

I'm okay with that. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #21

Russians could start a full blown attack on civilians in cities, millions would die Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #22

As opposed to what? Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #24

I think Russia going to slow motion grind this out for weeks, months, wear them down Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #27

I appreciate your point of view. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #39

I'm curious, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #29

No. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #38

Fair enough. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #44

You ready to sign up to fight WWIII? mcar Mar 2022 #35

I don;t think it has to come to that. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #40

I trust Pres. Biden mcar Mar 2022 #42

I generally do too, but.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #43

I agree with Tom Nichols' take on it-- Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #18

So to be clear... you are willing to sacrifice Ukraine to Russia, if that's what it takes? Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #25

That's most likely what's going to happen. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #30

OKay, so the answer is yes. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #32

The Russian objective is much more difficult to reach than the Ukrainian objective. Gore1FL Mar 2022 #33

Now I understand why Ukraine Tickle Mar 2022 #13

+1,000 chia Mar 2022 #20

Simple: Right now we are more afraid of him than he is of us. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #11

Agree. We need peacekeepers in Ukraine. kiranon Mar 2022 #17

There's no peace to keep in Ukraine; what you mean is "we need combat troops" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #37

All of NATO agrees with Pres Biden muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #34

Has the US ever fought directly with Russia since it Politicub Mar 2022 #23

Russia's mercenaries, The Wagner Group, did engage US forces in Syria MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #31

when you say we Skittles Mar 2022 #36

It's not going to happen. David__77 Mar 2022 #41