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In reply to the discussion: How insane is it that you could own a deadly machine like an AR-15 and not need to register it? [View all]ColinC
(11,098 posts)173. Law enforcement seems to disagree.
https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/firearm-reg/
Hawaii is the only state that requires all firearms to be registered and consistently has the lowest or second lowest gun death rate in the country. In a March 15, 2021 letter to GVPedia, Hawaii Police Department Chief Paul K. Ferreira wrote, In response to your inquiry about whether the firearms registration process in Hawaii County has been used to solve crimes or has resulted in prosecutions, firearm ownership or transfer information can lead to evidence that is vital to the prosecution of a crime.
Firearms checks are used on a daily basis to confirm ownership of firearms recovered during the execution of search warrants, of firearms routinely found in the possession of suspects who are wanted for crimes, and firearms located within vehicles during traffic stops. Having the ability to access a persons firearms information prior to arriving at a domestic violence type call can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety. Being able to verify the ownership of a firearm or where it has been transferred to have led to multiple calls for service being solved to include burglaries, theft and violent crimes.
In a February 24, 2021 email to GVPedia, the Criminal Justice Division of the Department of the Attorney General of Hawaii wrote, Hawaii requires a person seeking to purchase or acquire a firearm to apply for a permit from the police chief to ensure that the person acquiring a firearm in Hawaii is qualified to possess the firearm. In addition to obtaining a permit, Hawaii mandates the registration of all firearms purchased or acquired in Hawaii, transported into Hawaii, assembled from parts, or transferred from one person to another. As an added safeguard, Hawaii requires owners to report when a firearm is removed permanently from the State. This comprehensive system creates a record of the transaction(s) transferring ownership of the firearm, whether it be a pistol or revolver, or rifle or shotgun. The law also requires the transferor to verify that the recipient has obtained a permit to acquire a firearm, and, also to verify and record the identity of the recipient. Each county police department maintains its records of firearm transactions for its respective county, and all county police departments have statewide access to firearm information.
Hawaiis firearm permit and registration system provides information to law enforcement agencies and the courts that assist in solving crimes and promoting public safety. By requiring each transfer of ownership to be documented, the county police departments may be able to trace the ownership of a firearm involved in a crime. Firearm ownership or transfer information can lead to evidence that is vital to the prosecution of a crime.
The courts routinely order that firearms are to be surrendered by persons who have been disqualified from ownership of firearms upon being charged with or convicted of felonies and certain misdemeanors, including domestic violence offenses. Also, a restraining or protective order, particularly a domestic violence protective order or gun violence protective order, will prohibit the possession of firearms. Law enforcement officers serving the protective order can verify whether the person being served owns firearms and account for its surrender. Additionally, when law enforcement serves warrants or execute evictions, the firearm registry can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety.
Firearms checks are used on a daily basis to confirm ownership of firearms recovered during the execution of search warrants, of firearms routinely found in the possession of suspects who are wanted for crimes, and firearms located within vehicles during traffic stops. Having the ability to access a persons firearms information prior to arriving at a domestic violence type call can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety. Being able to verify the ownership of a firearm or where it has been transferred to have led to multiple calls for service being solved to include burglaries, theft and violent crimes.
In a February 24, 2021 email to GVPedia, the Criminal Justice Division of the Department of the Attorney General of Hawaii wrote, Hawaii requires a person seeking to purchase or acquire a firearm to apply for a permit from the police chief to ensure that the person acquiring a firearm in Hawaii is qualified to possess the firearm. In addition to obtaining a permit, Hawaii mandates the registration of all firearms purchased or acquired in Hawaii, transported into Hawaii, assembled from parts, or transferred from one person to another. As an added safeguard, Hawaii requires owners to report when a firearm is removed permanently from the State. This comprehensive system creates a record of the transaction(s) transferring ownership of the firearm, whether it be a pistol or revolver, or rifle or shotgun. The law also requires the transferor to verify that the recipient has obtained a permit to acquire a firearm, and, also to verify and record the identity of the recipient. Each county police department maintains its records of firearm transactions for its respective county, and all county police departments have statewide access to firearm information.
Hawaiis firearm permit and registration system provides information to law enforcement agencies and the courts that assist in solving crimes and promoting public safety. By requiring each transfer of ownership to be documented, the county police departments may be able to trace the ownership of a firearm involved in a crime. Firearm ownership or transfer information can lead to evidence that is vital to the prosecution of a crime.
The courts routinely order that firearms are to be surrendered by persons who have been disqualified from ownership of firearms upon being charged with or convicted of felonies and certain misdemeanors, including domestic violence offenses. Also, a restraining or protective order, particularly a domestic violence protective order or gun violence protective order, will prohibit the possession of firearms. Law enforcement officers serving the protective order can verify whether the person being served owns firearms and account for its surrender. Additionally, when law enforcement serves warrants or execute evictions, the firearm registry can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety.
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How insane is it that you could own a deadly machine like an AR-15 and not need to register it? [View all]
ColinC
Jan 2022
OP
Until someone tries running on that and the propaganda machines kick in gear
BeyondGeography
Jan 2022
#3
This is why the estimates for the number of guns in the US vary by 100 million or more
Amishman
Jan 2022
#10
People can see a license plate on a get away car if the criminal hasn't removed it
MichMan
Jan 2022
#30
Yes, and I told you where gun registration info "leads" in investigating crimes.
Straw Man
Jan 2022
#157
So should I trust a random anonymous poster about how police investigations work?
ColinC
Jan 2022
#178
Please explain to me how police investigations solve crimes though gun registration.
Straw Man
Jan 2022
#179
The AR-15 is actually one of the most popular hunting rifles in America.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#15
Hunters Have been using semi automatic rifles and shotguns for well over a century.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#21
Please tell me you're not taking that video seriously. It's an obvious joke.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#54
I wouldn't take anything the OP says about this subject seriously,
MarineCombatEngineer
Jan 2022
#59
And I'm just sitting down for dinner before I crawl into my sleeper
MarineCombatEngineer
Jan 2022
#67
Actually I don't think that a criminal is going to convert their weapon to fully auto
ColinC
Jan 2022
#57
Your conlusions suggest they're such a "small percent" of the problem, why take them off the market.
BeckyDem
Jan 2022
#113
Dead is dead...if you are actually worried about people being murdered and not how.
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#106
Are you seriously comparing a machine designed to kill people with "accidentally falling"?
ColinC
Jan 2022
#142
You brought up accidental deaths by firearms like it was a significant number which is not...
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#145
An AR-15 *is* a semiautomatic rifle. When used to hunt, the user must obey all relevant game
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#44
The Winchester Model 1905 I mentioned had a 10 round magazine manufactured for it.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#51
"Is not legally allowed to use all of the things that an AR-15 is already built to include."
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#212
Curious. There are dozens of countries where nearly 0 people own firearms. Why did you pick Mexico?
ColinC
Jan 2022
#143
Because it clearly shows how criminals and drug cartels and gangs behave with a disarmed populace
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#147
...And the old myth "The AR-15 will destroy the meat of any animal it hits" rears it's head yet again.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#198
"Pretending the AR-15 is a hunting weapon doesn't hold water." Stats say otherwise.
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#213
How exactly does using an AR-15 "shoot game to oblivion"? I would really like to know.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#216
Au contraire, I find the comparison of a rifle to a nuclear weapon laughable.
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#219
Thousands certainly aren't dead every year from AR-15's or indeed all rifles.
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#234
A post with that much info on cartridges might upset someone. Doesn't it need a
Dial H For Hero
Jan 2022
#228
"The rate of accidents at the hands of guns could absolutely warrant their being insured"
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#96
Yes but insurance is not required, people can already get firearm insurance if they want.
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#115
Good. They can make a comeback by supporting a law to require firearm insurance!
ColinC
Jan 2022
#156
Yes I said that. They are both mentioned next to each other in the constitution.
ColinC
Jan 2022
#167
How would you strap "methicillin-susceptible Staphylococcus aureus" to your chest? nt
EX500rider
Jan 2022
#114
The fact no one can say "hell no" is bad enough for you NOT to own a PGR. Calis PGR laws should
uponit7771
Jan 2022
#100
Democratic Party doesn't mind either which is why there's no serious push to register such guns
Kaleva
Jan 2022
#112